Another Glitch-Exploit Car Tunes in Multiplayer/Leagues?

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A while ago i was running in the gosth league C class, novice players, and i was amazed by a guy who drives amazing, tune cars beyond the stars or whatever…

As an average player i have to admit that i have lots of doubts and less skills than very fast player but…mmm…i can´t believe that after a good amount of races, cars, tune and effort, an user can simply take any car, even the most weird car, and run like hell since the first straight and gone away “forever”.

I download from the online menu some tune settings from his/her,and, i´ve never drove a C class car so fast, so easy and “so winner”. I suspect a lot that this tunes are pure cheat; i tried one in Lime Rock and it takes me two laps to win 2 seconds my own record, made it in the stock challenge Audi in Rivals with manual and clutch.

I take a Jeep Willis and put the tune this user use in another race and…woooah!! never seen a so fast C class car, easy, smooth regardless of skills, aids…anyway, or it is the most amazing tunes i tried or it is pure-hard cheated tunes, and i supoose the second thing, and that is the reason i write this topic.

I am sick of this things, maybe, only maybe i could be wrong but is soooo CLEAR, it is so stupidly insulting use a Jeep o a Volvo 123GT in the league and walk all over al the racers in the first straight or turn that i can´t believe.

I run a lot these days in C league and it is no normal, so today i decided to get the tune copy and see what happens…and what happens is cheating, at least in my book.

I´m not going to wirte here any user name and any name of the tune sreator, but if moderation or someone at Turn 10 thinks that this should be useful i hsve any problem to tell yhem who and the tunes he/her uses and take a look. But are insane tunes, really; i feel a little bad because i destroy my honest record in Lime Rock with a Jeep only trying to see what happens if i use, and the result is there, 2 second or more below my previous record, and regardless of put too much effor, running with aids, with no aids…is the same, simply blows away almost any other C class car.

I would like that if these tune is cheated, glitched, my record at Lime Rock, wich is stiil in 1% could be erase and let my proudly Audi stock wich i employed a good effort, even with clutch…XD.

Salute and sorry for my english.

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A fully upgraded and tuned car can easily beat that stock Audi by 2 or more seconds in the same class so I don’t think it’s glitched. However if it’s beating the top guys by 10 seconds then it’s prob glitched.

As for the really good guys being able to fly with any car in the game that’s just how it is, they are really really fast, Raceboy77 can set top 20-50 times while doing 360 entries into a corners.

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Yes i know, and thans for your words; i use many of Raceboy77 tunes; but i´m pretty sure that this is not the case. Just a while ago i tried a mod Jeep Willys in the novice league and is a rocket, but not a “real” rocket, you know?, i recieve a bunch of messages from people asking me about it. Is not a regular or legal tune for sure, i was flying over evry car regardless of the model, literally flying.

This mod, and many other are being used by a racer in the class C league, ghost league, and after many tries i have no doubt: s a cheated mod, not a quiestion of skills, i´m not a top skilled racer anyway XD, but i know really when something is wrong, suspicious, etc…

By the way i let passme all the other racers at the end of the race and i don´t finish the race; i don´t want to be acused for what i´m trying to demostrate…XD.

It is a shame that almost every lobby, league, online race…etc…is cheated by someone, and believe me that i know prefectly when somenone is faster, long, long, long faster and when someone is cheating. These days there are a lot of tools to verify it and i did it with an user that annoying everybody exploiting the league. Is not moaning, seriously.

Salute.

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You would be surprised how good people can make cars on this game. Well forza 6 is still new so I’m mostly referring to 5. The lowest class I race is s and I don’t race it often. I’m mainly a p class driver and I do a little of R class. The reason I don’t race these lower classes is because they’re are to many combinations and variables to deal with. It seems like to me most of the lower class cars like c and d are point and shoot cars, meaning they have a bunch of power and almost stock grip. On forza 6 I was running 4 seconds behind 1st in the Ultima on Daytona and I was driving fast and smooth. It was the most I can get out of tune. It was stock power with max grip. I then made a set up with a lot less grip with a lot more power. I had 1008hp and that tune got me 2nd place. It was capable of 1st. Now in the past few days someone discovered a new tune and beat the 1st place time by almost a full second. This tune has 1045hp and weighs about 50-60lbs less. But the front tire width is not upgraded like it is on 1008hp tune. This what the difference can be with a different tune and different upgrades.

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Yep a stock car is almost always going to be a lot slower than a well tuned car.

Even minor tuning tweaks can make a car a lot faster and when you take what was an E class car and built it to C class there are a lot of things you can do to it. You can add a lot of grip, a lot of speed or a bit of both.

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I must admit that last night i was too quick making suposses.

I´m new in Forza but not at racing games, in fact is almost the most i played ever since this began…so my age is more that i would like XD. After trying again all those tunes supossed by me that are glitched i must say that i was wrong.

First of all i made a mistake undervalue myself as a racer; i use to be in 5-3-1% on the leaderboards and many of that tunes improves a lot my times but in fact are not so easy to manage the car with them; one could be a super speed tune but a pain in gears or brakes, other are almost uncontrolable without a TC, wich i only use in the typical cars/categories, irealize that are really good but no cheated, no sure winner by any means.

Maybe last night i was with this sensation someone has in the head when the cheated-thing is over the game and tends to think too much in it instead of his/her driving.

I realize too the things that all of you response to me; i didn´t expect a so great “gap” between low cars to mid cars and all the posibilities, i expected not so remarkables, not so intense, but in real life could be like this, if i see a…say a Volvo 123 GT at insane speeds or insane grip.

I was talking with the user and with one of the tunner creator, talking about this tunes, possibilities etc… and yes, i was wrong. But i´m too happy because i discovered 2 or 3 great things: Forza is insanely good in this department as a game, now i can compete and race much closer to what i want…and i´m not a so bad racer as many times i judge myself.

I walk all over many of my records in class E in a while. And no, i didn´t beat any nº1… XD, but too happy to see a whole world of chances wich i considered in the past as less influence in the game; in fact underrated the core of Forza believing that tunning it was not a big important part, and it is, i know IT IS xd

Aprecciate a lot your comments and suggestions.

Thanks and salute.

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Happy to hear you found out how to begin tuning for better performance…
By the way, after the car pack cane out, a lot of people were building the limo and doing well… Amazingly well…
I, on the other hand, prefer to go where fewer people go… I love to create a good performer with something strange…

A lot of racers enjoy this too…

And yes… I have an incredibly well performing Volvo, racing in the C league… My own tune… From scratch…

But… It took me a couple of hours of playing around with different combinations of upgrades while keeping PI within the 500 range. Then… It must be tuned to drive… Often separate tunes for different tracks…

If you watched me in the league, then you would see, I have several favorites and change cars often between races… Or at least… Change tunes… Using variances of my tunes… usually gear ratio… But I have several slight variances saved, so I can change on the fly, between races…

Sometimes seeing someone do really well with a car, can be an inspiration to go build it…

I recommend figuring out how to build and tune yourself if you can invest the time… Downloading tunes is a start, but you will never be as good as you can be until you build it exactly to your own driving style…

Oh… And by the way… All the best real world race teams struggle to get the best tune every single day, minute, pit cycle, and race… Some teams have huge engineering budgets to predict best tunes for tracks, and they still find themselves tuning in the fly…

That is the nature of racing… Team work… Tuner/crew chief… And then driver…

Happy tuning…

Message me and I’ll tell you a bit about my Volvo setup if you like…

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Oh, and be sure to think about what you are tuning/upgrading for…

Very few races utilize top speed… And certain upgrades make your speed look better, but why waste the PI pionts if you will never need the speed… Also, tires aren’t always better when bigger… Particularly if you drive within the limits of what the car will do…

Fuel for thought!

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Thanks a lot. Now i have 5 or 6 cars and one or two (3 in same cases for legue; i´m in the 15 top now) tunings wich i choose depending of the track. A fast Acura and a Trans Am for W.Glenn and SPA, an Alfa GTA for short and non high speeds tracks, short tracks mainly, a Jeep…XD wich works incredible in somw tracks, pretty difficult to contro at the beginning but a great one in Moutain Rio, B. Hatch Indy etc…, i´ve just beaten my own record using a ´97 Civic at Lime Rock full…i´m happy with this way of understand car/races as you explained very well. I come from a more simulation PC games where only drive is the key, but bore me because lack of competition with other players, is too challenging but not enough fun for me; FM6 is not so challenging but way much more fun and different in other aspects and ways.

I mainly spend a lot of time in RWD drifting, wich is something that i love but i´m average as much; so now i´m working hard on a “blank paper tune” wich i´m doing reading, seeing, experiement with all the basiscs and advance drift tunes and advices taken from the forum, YT and everything related. I´m learning a lot about what concerns tunning a car in Forza andthe results.

It is sooo different to create, bulid and manage my own tune that is the great dfference as you tell me. I tried, trial an error, change one thing, try, change, read, race, watch, experiment, read, try again…xdxdxd, you know. Is amazing the great influence a simple ratio gear or a simple 3 stepes in a 2nd gear ratio could improve or ruine a car; works like a definition, a pesonal footprint of myself understanding way of drive/drift. (gas, breaks, steer, grip…), Forza is very diferent in mods and add parts than any other car game or simcade like GT. FM is tremendously and dramatically diferent in this part, and even realistic or at least ehough varied to create a lot of different and sucesfull, ot r not, cars, not tunes, cars i mean, and that´s the diference i feel, is not about cosmetic-less-influence-seconday aspect in the game, is jut crucial and part of the core.

Thanks again.

Salute!!

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Hey try the 2015 Z06 'Vette on WatGlen rev/alt short equip’d w/ race tires and sport susp/ sport weight reduction / try that with 30.5lbs air press. in tires. See how that " feels " after running that monster stock for 15 laps- the difference is stunning. No power added- just minor chassis tweaks. The illustration in cause&effect is instantly gratifying. Not to mention FUN!!! Good Luck + salute