So then guys this post is for you all to share your views and opinions to how to gain faster times on track.
I thought I would start this thread because something has been really bugging me lately.
So I have played forza since forza 2, I have learnt many tips n tricks over the years and I would consider myself an advance driver, even a veteran. Having raced with some of the best around I’m not stranger to making the right build and tune to take on the compition.
I could have several different builds and/or tunes on any given car and get them all around any given track all within a 10th or 2. Which tells me that I am driving a track not just consistently but to its limits.
But here’s the thing for all my ability and knowledge I will still be any where, depending on the teack, 1 to 3 seconds of LB times. As you may understand this frustrates me massively.
So that is my overall experience I guess what’s yours?
Do Deadzones in advance settings really matter or make that much difference ?
Is it better to run particular assists with others?
Plugged in controller or no/elite?
Is there perhaps some closely guarded secret that the elite keep to themselfs lol?
Like I said please share your experiences, views, thoughts, ideas etc.
The car, the build, corner entry & exit (driver experience basically), the tune.
That is the list IMO on what creates top LB times. Some people just have it down to the T. Always got to remember…smooth is fast, fast is smooth. I catch myself braking to aggressively because I’m trying to get into corner fast but lose speed doing so because I braked aggressive. Sometimes I will get anxious and throttle to much on corner exit and spin a little.
It’s all the little things that will add up over the course of the lap. May not seem like a big hit, but they sure show on lap times. Plus some guys are just beast drivers with crazy skills.
For sure hitting the breaks, throttle n corners right is key, n as for crazy skills there’s a couple of LB guys I know who I swear have sold there soul to Satan to be so fast lol
Time Trials can get you familiar with how your car handles, tuning and where to explore the limits of your car. Learn braking points and racing lines there. Concentrate on mid-corner speed and corner exit. You don’t gain time by braking, you gain time with speed and momentum. Any speed you scrub is speed you have to gain back - so only lose speed when you have to.
Learn that “slow in fast out” is often the best tactic of any corner. Concentrate on coming out of a corner as fast as you can, THEN adjust your braking later, well after you have a good feel for exit speed.
Then race a few ghost leagues to get used to racing in a competitive environment. You’ll see how pushing your car to the limits places you in the race, and see how other racers behave.
Then graduate to full contact racing. Your lines will be greatly modified by other traffic. Be patient, respect the other racers. You’re all competing for the same tarmac - only one of you can occupy any given space at any given time. If you’re lucky and you’re racing against people of a similar mind-set (meaning people with patience and with at least two brain cells available to rub together) you should develop a feel for how a race flows. In any video game there will be contact and mistakes (because there are absolutely ZERO physical or financial consequences to pay) so just be patient and take advantage of other’s mistakes.
There is no secret. There are no tricks. There is no substitute for practice and running lots of laps over the years. Their is a fastest line around every track. The top of the lb guys know this line, and brake later, and get back on the throttle sooner. That is where time is lost/gained in braking and corner exit. A small loss in corner exit speed can lose you tenths down the straight. Being 1 second off the top guys on a track with more corners is not a lot depending on the track. Example spa has around 14 corners 14 corners at .1 each is 1.4 seconds. .1 is amazingly easy to lose simply by missing an apex and having to lift a little mid corner when you should be full throttle the rest of the way out of the corner. Its too bad forza doesnt have a live delta like iracing has so you can see exactly how much time you are losing compared to other laps.
That’s live delta would actually be a pretty awesome tool to have in Forza, it would allow people to see where they are losing out and be able to practice those lines/corners
What PTG BC said. Using an identical car, a faster driver out paces me EVERYTIME. I can see a faster driver closing in at every brake zone and accelerating out of corners earlier than i am. They are pretty amazing to race against side by side (for couple of corners).
It is not the car; it’s the driver and his/her skills.
You’ve been playing for a long time with a very respectable level of skill. No doubt you’ve chased the ghost of world record leaderboard times before? What happens when you do this? Where are you struggling to keep up?
So at this point just want to make clear, that I agree with all the comments so far. For all my frustrations I still understand there will always be someone faster out there and that there is no substitute for practice. I just thought this might be a cool thread for people that don’t know certain things and help them get better, by advance people sharing there thoughts and advice on lines breaking and assists etc.
To answer your question there D Squared, yes over the years I have done a hell of alot of hot lapping, mostly always find it very stressful lol, anyway I know my skill level isnt shabby at all. When it comes to hot lapping I can mostly always get through a given corner quicker than most with a smooth exit. For the most part I mostly lose out on the straights. It’s always hard to determine why this is, could be camber or toe or downforce or even a slow exit.
I have often wondered if turning off the breaking line would make me faster, I don’t follow it religiously of course as I know that makes you slower it’s merely reference as it is obviously so much easier to see than the meter boards on the side of the track and particularly handy when doing multiplayer.
Turning off the braking line isn’t going to have any effect. It is literally only a very handy and easy reference point for braking. Nearly all of the most impressive times are done with braking line. This tells us everything we need to know. Not patronising you, of course you know this. I’ve seen your open source setups. It’s not your setups. You’re doing the right things. One of your setups could be one of my setups, they’re that similar. Also you can download exact setups from the boards and go like for like, and I’m sure you’ve tried this. I’m still not sure on deadzones. For the last month I’ve been 0-100. The whole time before that I was default and all through forza 4 default. Sometimes there’s something in it. It’s a tiny bit. A tenth. It’s no magic bullet. You can easily set #1s with default. If you’re loosing out on the straight and it’s not the setup (and it’s not the setup) something isn’t right. Where’s the leaderboard time you’re most proud of?
Do you use shift with clutch? This was my Achilles Heel for years, I could never quite master it. But someone showed me the simplest way to do this (change clutch to “A”" and simply mash both the clutch AND either upshift or downshift at the same time).
This dropped my lap times by at least .5 and even more on some tracks.
Now, a clutch can flow or it can crash. You put clutch into a cup it BECOMES the cup. You put clutch into a pot it BECOMES the pot. Be manual with clutch, my friend.
But of course dude I was doing that years ago lol like I said I have been around on Forza for some time aha:+1: it also depends on the car, using clutch isn’t always faster, some of the GT cars actually prefer Manual as you can stay in a gear longer. Meaning less shifts whilst still staying within the power band. It may only be 10ths but every little helps
Cesar easiest way to tell if its the tune or the driver is find a lb time with a shared tune and ghost. This will tell u automatocally is they are doing something different. You know the variable of the tune is gone so its down to your line, braking points, and corner exit. I know not all tunes suit everyone but try it do 50 laps if u have to even if it doesnt suit you, you will get used to the way u need to drive it.
I really need to get on top of my auto correct, erm I not so sure tbh on F6 I haven’t done a great load of hot lapping mostly just multiplayer, I’ve done a lot of S Class and B n A, I’ll have to have a look at it
