It seems like every other challenge I"m getting revolves around drifting. Just this weekly challenge forced be to get five drift zone stars when I often struggle to get one, and then get the Showoff skill, and while I was doing that, I got roped into Forzathon Live events which, again, focused heavily on Drift Zones and Skill Zones which only count drift skills, worst of all being the Drift Zone with an absure 3.000.000 points requirement. I can bare get 50.000 points into a single run, and I’m supposed to rack of THREE MILLION in ten minutes?! And even when I’m not doing that, there are so many drift zones that just about every route goes through at least one. I’ve started driving around the entrances and making sure to knock down as many of the banners as I can. At this point, I don’t care if I never see another Drift Zone banner until the day I die.
I think everyone knows how I feel about drifting by now…
Easiest place, IMO, to get x drift zone stars is the Festival Loop zone. Really quick to go round it a few times, even if you’re only scoring 1 star each time.
Ooh, me me me me I am right here 
While the skill many drifters display can sometimes be near-jaw dropping, personally I’d prefer that racing games stuck to, oh I dunno… RACING, and leave the stunts and gimmicky sideshow and carnival stuff to someone else…
I’ll cut horizon slack on the drifting as it’s more of an adventurous game. But fm7, come on man…
I don’t mind it kept to a minimum, but if the second expansion revolves around drifting like the first one did… Blah.
On that you and I can agree. Imagine that.
I wasn’t aware there was an issue either way, but if you say so… 
I don’t. Unless it Motorsport then it’s still boring
I’d understand your point if this was about Forza Motorsport.
Forza Horizon is not just a “racing game”.
Not sure why you let yourself get so “moody” that someone likes something else than you.
technically forza horizon is more about open car culture. BUT… FH4 has taken all the car culture and packed it into 50% with the other 50% being just for drifting.
I suppose I shouldnt really be complaining I guess… I havent played FH4 now in many many months, its been so long I had completely forgotten about forza hub untill I was at my friends place watching amazon prime and I happened to see the hub app icon. Yet for all the time this game has been out I havent STARTED drift 1.0 yet… … … …
not even actively playing, STILL over the drift bias in FH4, but thoroughly expecting a drift 3.0 and another “super amazing epic awesome drift zone” as the centerpiece for expansion 2
It’s the most complex game I have ever played and yes, even drifting is there. There is almost everything. I like that but Forzathon live is mostly boring. If you like racing, Motorsport is much better in many ways. Horizon is about skill for many things.
True, point taken. I do like racing, but Motorsport (and it’s vehicle offerring) is more oriented towards the track. Being a cross country runner, I much prefer the off-road and trails and the open-world game as opposed to being stuck on the same boring tracks (backwards, forwards, circuit segments - all still way boring the 5,000th time around across half a dozen sequals). And Horizon is about skill…for many things? Really? 
How about we say for ‘some’ things? Because thinking about the yahoos I encounter every day doesn’t conjure up many images I would pair with ‘skill for many things.’
I like the car feeling in Motorsport. You can feel the car much more. In Horizon it’s different and not so satisfying. But yes, open-world is much better in many ways and I always loved open-world games. Cross-country is very different than normal racing. I was very bad at it and worked on it and currently I am average 
There something for everybody.
There is road racing, dirt racing, cross-country racing, PR stunts (drift, speed zone, speed trap, trailblazer, jump), tuning, painting, knowledge about the game which is huge. You need to have a lot of skills to be really good at everything. What about Auction house, can you earn money there easily? Tuning itself is at least for months if you are a beginner.
Nope
im so tired of having so much drifting in Forza games now it’s putting me to sleep ZZZZZZ
what a snoozefest, it’s overkill to appease a minority of players
too much in fh3 , then fm7 and now fh4
BUT I actually have completed everything drifting in all games, only because I was forced to, not because I wanted to
I go alright but only enough to get it done, then I fall asleep
I didn’t like drifting until I started to get much better at it. Once you’ve got a car, tune and settings that you can work with, and a technique down, it’s much more enjoyable. Forzathons are a good way to practise. Getting the right car/tune though is key.
It IS more enjoyable when youre tuned properly and not fighting the car every three seconds, but still too much emphasis on it, I think. If it actually helped improve racing somehow, Id be more amenable it.
It does help. Sometimes, but not always, using the handbrake to power around a corner is the most efficient method. Not always, as you lose too much speed.
An example where drifting helps is The Car Files. I got all 30 stars last night. Being able to drift a car is necessary, because to 3 Star some tasks, you need to nail the throttle for the whole trip, which means the car (e.g. VW Type 2) goes sideways a bit around the corners and you have to manage that and steer earlier.