I really need to stop putting everything I want to say in the title… Anyway, putting my serious face on, I just wanted to say that I really have enjoyed the last few weeks! Long may it continue!
Now, before everyone starts throwing things at me, I’m gonna hide
I’ve enjoyed them since they reduced the reward tier from 100% to 80%. Being able to skip the Trials and Playground Games each week, and in some weeks even skipping the majority of dailies, made this so much less of a mental hurdle to complete.
I think most people have no issue with the playlist per-ce. I think a lot of people seem to like it as a UI feature.
What a lot of people have issue with is that they’ve locked exclusive content behind a grinding list of chores taking hours to complete, some of which include multiplayer, which not everybody likes or even does, or even has an Xbox Live account to be able to do. People would complain before if it was just a championship here or there, but at least it was only the one thing that could usually be done in a few minutes. Now they expect you do to all the things to get the thing.
Hours to complete? Pa leaseeee… There’s cars throughout the game linked to progression, cars behind playlist are no different.
Do you finnish all events compined in 15 minutes? And playlist cars are different than cars linked to gameplay progression, cars linked gameplay progression you can get anytime you want so people who will start play game next month will get same cars than we that have start 6 months ago while playlist cars you have change to get only by this week.
And well im not enjoy playlist, UI is nice but totally useless without fast travel so still use only map to see seasonal events. Many championship is allready recycled event and are super boring to do again. PR stunts are barely more than 3 stars. Online events are terrible espicialy playground games. daily “challenges” are more to just keep log in numbers higher and i havent see yet any fun weekly forzathon event.
So you are saying its not hard to complete
They are basically just participation rewards
But still complain nontheless
And just that is a problem, it’s unchallencing boring tedious chore. Playlist would be mutch better feature if rewards would be expensive autoshow cars, huge amount of credits, previous exclusive cars but when reward is new content and it’s take hours to complete it’s not enjoyable experience. Even moment when gets new car dont get feeling “yeij i won new cool car” instead get feeling “thank god that is done now”
And like i say earlier many events are allready recycleded events from past (like this week veloster vs raptor) and doing same championships again is not fun IMO.
I wonder what peoples who like playlist now would think abaout playlist if PG would increase events so you need spent even more time to do stuff what PG wants to do, it’s take 2-3 hours to complete now how abaout if it would take 10 hours every week to get new car how many would still think “wow this is so cool feature”
I would prefer if they did increase it
Takes me maximum 2hrs a week
10 hrs a week ..now that would be excessive lol and people would have something to complain about
but yet I know someone that has done all weeks at 100% over 4 different accounts, can’t be all that hard if 1 person can do that , no convoys, no teaming up , just 1 person without any assistance
Because you have to participate, and participate when they want you to participate, or else you don’t get exclusive content. You could be someone that has logged over 600 driving hours, go on a week’s vacation, and then just be completely out of luck at getting content … which, if you look at the Boneshaker, may or may not be THE car in its class.
I don’t get why you have such a big problem understanding this, that is unless you work for PG and it’s not about not understanding it. A lot of the griping about the game has to do with PG getting easy decisions wrong, and trying to get people to use features without trying to make the feature fun or having the challenge make sense. Instead, it’s more like: “Oh, so you don’t like such and such feature? In response to that, we’ll intentionally lock exclusive content behind such and such feature.” Ignoring constructive criticism would be preferable to intentionally going the opposite way.
And the festival playlist griping is incredibly easy to stop. Instead of locking exclusive cars as the rewards and making people feel like they have to play the game in a way they DON’T like in order to get an exclusive reward, they should make the playlist rewards something of value that can be gotten in some other way so people don’t feel locked in. Make it a 10 million CR car. Problem (that should have never existed in the first place) solved.
Personally, I’d get the rewards anyway, because I do everything … all challenges, even if I don’t like them. OCD. And if exclusive content wasn’t time-gated, I’d like the playlist, even if I decided I didn’t want to do part of it. But that doesn’t make the choice of rewards less of an insult, and I know that the world extends past my immediate circle. Just because I can complete it doesn’t mean that I can’t appreciate someone who can’t complete it, for whatever reason. This isn’t just ranting, it’s constructive.
I saw that somebody said something like “If PG invented water, people would still complain” …
… yeah. Because if PG invented water, they’d serve it to you in a shoe, and then lock exclusive content behind a challenge that requires you to go look for witches. PG’s problem isn’t the cars or environments. Those are great, and, to me, it’s like they invented water. The problem is what they try to make you do with 'em. The whiff on decisions that should be easy. Creating cars and realistic environments should be the hard part, but it isn’t to PG. Making simple, common sense decisions seems to be what they struggle with.
The idea of inventing water wasn’t what they served it in… It’s the invention itself, I can serve myself. And you really went off the rails with that whole ‘witches’ thing.
Water = cars … Shoe, a bad container for water = bad game mode for cars … Looking for witches, a stupid task involved water for which to lock content behind = Playground Games in the playlist, a stupid task involving cars for which to lock content behind.
Can you serve yourself a rivals mode? Or could you serve yourself a multiplayer mode that wasn’t team based when the game first came out? How about serving yourself a multiplayer racing mode that isn’t a demolition derby, that isn’t driving hell? No, you couldn’t. The experience of driving the cars is the water, but it’s in their jug. You don’t get to come up with your own cup and serve yourself whenever and however. They determine all the ways in which you could consume it.
Driving great cars in great environments, but then multiplayer being what it is, is like drinking water out of a nasty shoe. The problem isn’t the water/cars, it’s what they put them in.
And I’d enjoy looking for witches, think Monty Python/Holy Grail, a lot more than I like Playground Games. Looking for witches is something stupid you can do with water to waste your time … Playground Games is something stupid you can do with digital cars to waste your time. I like neither, and wouldn’t appreciate having to do either in order to get locked, time-gated exclusive content.
I don’t mind them having time-gated exclusive content, provided they limit it to things that have no impact on the outcome of multiplayer competition (and I include rivals, for example, in “multiplayer competition”, as to me it is multiplayer because you are competing against other people). So clothing and dances are fine, paintjobs would be fine, just not cars that can potentially be faster than any non-time-gated cars.
I know someone like that, sux for him, guess he’s sol 
Yes, that would REALLY suck to have to miss out just to go spend some quality time with your family.
Ok, so a car linked behind progression, like something you get from the Road racing series, or Isha’s Taxi, or LaRacer, might take hours to unlock, and many people won’t have it unlocked yet. But that car will still be available next week. next month. Next year. All they have to do is take the time to do it if they want to.
Stuff locked behind the seasonal playlist needs to be done within the week or the month. Then it goes away, and who knows if or when it will be back. I’ve seen skilled players looking at a minimum of an hour to hit the seasonal 50%, and that’s week 3 into this thing. So if you want the 80% seasonal, or the 80% series prize, you’re looking at hours of gameplay, and you’ll have to get it done within the week/month. Not everybody has that kind of leisure time. And there are a lot of people who would rather not have to do multiplayer to get it. And not everybody wants to subscribe to an Xbox Live account so that they can do multiplayer. So it’s not quite as trivial as you seem to want to make it.
You’re right, it took me hours to achieve 87%. It took me 2 to be more precise, including the time required to build and tune cars for the events. Not a big deal…
That’s what makes the cars exclusive. You don’t have the time or patience to do the festival playlist to get the exclusive car? Oh well, too bad for you. Giving everyone easy access to a rare car makes it no longer rare.
Imagine if at this point in the games lifespan they simply gifted 2 random and possibly exclusive cars to you every week and had no game play requirements to earn those cars. The majority of the people complaining about the playlist would be complaining about lack of content. With very few exceptions, reward cars have always been available again at some point via a different method of obtaining that car. I think since changing the requirement to 80% completion to earn the 2nd car, they’ve made it as easy as possible short of just giving them away every week. Not having Gold to play online seems to be the exception and not the rule considering there are methods of getting Gold membership without paying for it. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for someone without gold to wait for the cars to appear again via alternate method of distribution.
One word would describe folks who want all the exclusive cars without having to complete any events to receive them: LAZY!
That’s a strawman argument if I’ve ever seen one. Who is arguing that they don’t want to complete ANY events to receive the rewards?
I’ll tell you who: NOBODY
From what I’ve seen and read, a majority of detractors are actually willing to complete a vast majority of the events. Some are even willing to forego missing a daily challenge just so they don’t have to participate in those few (see: 2 on average) events they don’t like.
Having to log in every, single, day and complete absolutely every event and challenge sans 2 isn’t being “lazy”. So, let me get this straight… according to you, doing 3 championships (9-12 races), 3 PR stunts, 7 daily challenges, 1 weekly challenge, a Trial, and a Rivals is somehow being “lazy” because we don’t want to play in toxic multiplayer modes that PG has absolutely zero intentions of fixing?
In what world?
Well, except the rarest and most exclusive cars are those that are only attainable via wheel spins or ranked series rewards. Very few, if any, cars that have ever been offered via seasonal events, playlist or otherwise, are among the games most exclusive cars. With that, your argument kind of falls flat on its face. There are already 2 better ways to ensure a cars maintained exclusivity that are not seasonal playlists, so THOSE are what make cars exclusive not the playlist rewards. Seasonal playlists don’t really contribute to that aforementioned rarity since most people complaining are still doing the events to get the car, so that’s really a moot point. The reason they’re still complaining (despite begrudgingly completing the events) isn’t because they’re lazy and want the car for free, they just want to be able to enjoy the game while unlocking the car like was possible before these seasonal playlists.