I’ve read through forum posts about A+X / A+B setups.
Should I just press and release both at the same time or does A need to be pressed first?
Should I let off the throttle when I shift up or down? I heard some people say that it gives a performance increase.
Press both at the same time.
When changing up do not let off the gas.
When changing down there are different methods. In some cars I stay on 10% of the gas. In others I let off the gas totally. Some suggest rev matching which is a more explicit variation of my 10% method.
Personally, I would switch the clutch to the bumper and use A for the handbrake. At least for me, it is much easier to shift this way.
In either case, press both at the same time, or the clutch slightly sooner.
When it comes to maintaining throttle during upshift, I would say it depends on the car. Some really high power cars you may want to let off the gas or make sure you don’t have it mashed because it could cause some traction issues once the clutch re-engages.
No lb as clutch is not better your using two fingers on top of controller that makes it harder his a+b clutch setup is the best way
Just make sure you don’t press the upshift button before the clutch button. Once you get it down you’re not really button mashing. Instead, you are press one button followed by the other in rapid succession.
I essentially hit both at the same time. If I were dissect it closely I probably roll from A to B or X but very quickly. On up shifts holding the gas down the whole time is a little faster although if have a slow shifting transmission it will ping of the rev limiter but this causes no damage. If that bothers you (like it does me) let off the gas ever so slightly when shifting.
I hit the clutch and shift at the same time, when up shifting I keep the gas matted, it’s just like power shifting a real car at the drag strip. Some manufacturers even advertise a “no lift shift” feature on some turbo cars to maintain boost through the shift. That’s the same thing you are doing when you shift while maintaining WOT in the game.
I had concerns about needing to try to rev match downshifts in the game when using manual with clutch. I’ve never had any issues locking up the rear wheels by not rev matching though. You shouldn’t be downshifting on throttle though, you should be braking when downshifting. If you are downshifting on the exit of a corner on throttle you are doing it wrong. Hitting the clutch and downshift at the same time has never caused me any issues though.
Thanks guys!
I did a bunch of 1 mile drags on the test track and you’re right, shifting while on the throttle gave me the best results.
I still have a lot to improve on though. A big problem for me is controlling the car when throttling out of a corner or a u-turn. Often I go too wide after nailing the apex or I end up oversteering right at the apex and the back of the car slides outward a little. Usually I’m on-and-off the throttle repeatedly to make corrections, I can’t seem to get a smooth transition to the point of the straightaway that I need to be on after the turn, at least never at an efficient speed to help me improve my Time Attacks in rivals mode.
Gearing may be part of the problem, during those type of turns I should never be in a gear that’s close to red lining, correct?
All assists are off, except steering is on normal, and race line is on brake only. I am considering putting traction control on to see if it helps me corner more efficiently.
U turns are tricky so let’s assume you take them right (usually you want a late apex which the race line does not show) and the cars differential and suspension is tuned well.
Not every good tune will have tunable gears since an upgraded transmission isn’t necessary in many cases. Also, if the gears are tunable, it may not be beneficial to have them ideal for that one corner. Basically if you’re hovering around the red line, try a higher gear. This may work really well in cars with high torque. In other cases, the car bogs out and you’re pretty much forced to run the lower gear.
With manual with clutch coming out of a narrow corner like a u-turn it is ok to let off the gas between shifts to nullify the acceleration boost. Its slower doing this and should only be done when you mess up your exit or the car simply sucks at that section. Its a handy trick in keeping a car on track and not losing too much time. I do this often in muscle cars when I screw up a corner.
try lowering your rear tire pressure a pound or so and see if that helps.
Just remember that manual + clutch does not work well with every car and every tune. I recommend trying both manual and manual with clutch on any given car to see which one works better.
Regarding cornering, just remember that the lower the gear, the sharper you will be able to turn. Also, instead of just braking to slow down, try gearing down and let the car slow down that way, just as you would in real life. Takes a lot of practice. Just keep at it and you’ll get better.
Some things that can help with putting power down exiting corners, your differential settings. Too much lock up will induce oversteer. The default set ups for the upgraded diffs have way too much lock up for me. Another thing that can help is toe in in the rear. The other thing is to help the car weight transfer to the rear. Stiffen the front springs and shocks or soften the rear. Keep in mind this will promote understeer in general as well so you will need to make adjustments to sway bars with this as well to get the car to drive right through the rest of the corner.
Skid issues immediately after throttling during a turn, is that from the differential? I use 60-10 on my Honda S2000 which is what someone recommended to me. Could it also be from throttling too fast (squeezing the Right Trigger quickly)? I want to make sure my driving isn’t the culprit before I start making more changes to tuning.
If tcs is off and applying throttle results in lack of traction then look at:
Honda S2000
ARB
29.0
8.0
Springs
671
530
Damping
11.2
8.4
5.6
4.2
Differential
60
10
I would cut accel diff to 20 ish. If you get understeer I would reduce front arb.
Other than that throttle control is key.
I almost Never Clutch to Downshift, It doesn’t seem to make much difference to me, since I am not throttling through braking, I have tried to clutch down, But to be honest, even if I am trying to break traction to drift out of a corner, I can double clutch, after I downshift, and tapping the brakes. While I find the current set up of the controller to be a hinderance, especially the fact the controller is tiny and the buttons are super closely grouped, I still prefer the Clutch on the LB, and Gears on X and B, handbrake on A.
both at same time
Ive found that using RB for clutch and the right stick for the shifter works well.
shame you cant use the downward press click on the right stick as clutch. Would be great to be able to click it and flick it down or up at the same time when shifting
Here you go: