After just losing a race by watching P2 cut the pit lane 11 laps in a row, passing me in T1 where I couldn’t contest or defend… It really makes you angry. Imma sound like an angry old crank, but there’s no accountability anymore. I know I wouldn’t feel much satisfaction from winning that way, but maybe that’s just not how people are anymore. I don’t know. I can forgive a lot with this game, but fine tuning the penalty system while leaving in blatant cuts like that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
I genuinely could not disagree more with this sentiment. The rules exist for a reason. Just because the game isn’t punishing you, doesn’t mean its right.
But I realize not everyone shares that opinion. My views are my own. But you have to admit, there is a large difference in a team exploiting a rules loophole, and blatantly cutting a well-defined racing circuit.
Eh, I commonly dont cut it unless I necessarily have to to keep pace with forward traffic. I am commonly a top 3 driver without using meta cars, but when track advantages give them a slight edge, I will follow suit. Realistically, racing is about stretching the rules and gaining as much of an advantage as possible over others.
So I guess I have to ask, if all of ya’ll are citing “anything to win” as a reason to do it, does that also include wrecking your opponent or getting them penalties in the ways we’ve seen? I’d argue that falls under the same purview. Where is the line you won’t cross?
This isn’t to judge. I’m just trying to get my head around the justifications. I’m going to keep doing me, regardless.
It’s not an “anything to win” scenario. Every racing driver on the face of the earth will drive the fastest lap to the limits of what the marshals are willing to enforce.
Irl on the same track different series will have different track cut limits and limits on how far a car can be over the white line on different turns.
The marshals in fm23 are just drunk idiots, gotta adapt accordingly.
Yeah, I drive it properly in single player and in qualifying but follow whatever my direct competitor is doing in races. I don’t blame people for cutting it though - ultimately it’s for T10 to fix it, otherwise currently it’s the racing line.
IIRC I checked track limits at one point and it showed as off-track; I consider it illegal-but-not-enforced. I cut it if I’m chasing someone who’s cutting it.
First ever race/practice online I respected it. Shortly after when I realized you gain 0.5s in ONE CORNER I said screw it. Now I purely avoid this track, along with Maple Valley and EagleRock. Shame because Mid Ohio is great.
I like to play racing games, especially sims (or simcades if we’re going that route) because i know that I’ll never get the opportunity in real life to race these cars at these tracks. To that end, i like to try to pretend that I actually am racing in these situations, to try and give myself as realistic an experience as possible.
T1 at Mid Ohio is such an obvious oversight and blatant misrepresentation of reality that it’s not something i would consider doing in competition. By doing so, am i willingly putting myself at a disadvantage against those who do abuse the corner? Yes. But for me, winning is not the only goal. Winning by doing something that clearly would never be allowed by real stewards in a real race, just feels wrong. If that makes me a scrub, then so be it.
