forza 5 race end results and car handling issues

firstly can some 1 tell me how the end results work you will as cleanly as poss and come last and the dirty ones come up tops please tell me how it works and secondly you tune a car do the rivals and do realy well and go on multi player and car handles rubbish i played all forzas and spent a lot of money buying all cars and tracks but i refuse to spend any money on forza 5 till evrything is sorted out every time i play forza 5 on line i dont want to play it what about been able to play online multi player with collisions off or on pull finger out turn 10 and sort it out before you start loosing forza fans

really you’ve played all forzas but you dont understand how racing works? doesnt matter whether you have a clean lap or dirty lap winnings winnin.

yes a clean lap is better but online its hard to get a clean lap so just because a lap is dirty doesn’t mean the persons done anything wrong

no i know what im on about i wa srefuring to the end results i won loads of races and the end result says i came last and im always as clean as poss

and i was refuring to the dirty drivers what take you out

only thing i can think you mean is there is a glitch where sometimes you will show as last with a DNF but you do still get the win ive had this loads and its been mentioned on the forums a few times.

same thing stands unfortunately doesnt matter whether you are clean or dirty winnings winnin. and some people only care about the win they dont care who they wreck on the way.

Well lets be honest here, The online gaming is [Mod Edit - implied profanity - DE], Nothing but dirty racers stupid results time, keeps crashing back to dashboard, Voting system is backwards (instead of voting for tracks vote for class would be better with random tracks)

And as Harvey mentioned, tune your car for the rivals get in the top 100 and then take the same car online multiplayer and it drives totally different (Worse).

its been over 2 months now and none of these issues have been fixed, When will turn 10 fix these or are they not going to bother and just let people complain until they move to some other racing game.
As time goes by and if nothing gets done fast I see turn 10 falling down like a sack of potatoes.

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how is this T10’s fault surely its the dirty racers at fault

The cars drive the same in multiplayer as they do anywhere else, Most races you are only doing 2-3 laps in a multiplayer lobby anyway, so the cars feel different because the tires don’t get to a good temp until lap 3 or 4.

no they dont i do races with more laps and my lap times are 2 seconds slower even on lap 4 and 5

but are you taking into account being slowed by others on the track

For a start dirty laps mean nothing online, if they come first they come first.
You do well on rivals because you have no cars on track, you do bad on multiplayer because there are other people on the track that you CAN HIT.
I doubt you have played all the Forza games because you haven’t got a clue what racing is by the sounds of it.

I fail to see why T10 would lose so much fans because of some simple “problems” that aren’t actually problems at all and honestly do you think T10 cares that they will lose a few fans because of some false problems.

yes i have played them all and i do no what im on about if your so good then add me and race me and we will see most probs you dont know much about racing on forza if you did you would know what im on about so dont coment on something you know nothing about read the message though and then go to rivals do a good few laps and record your best then do privqate game and record that then come back and tell me the times are the same because it wont