Forza 4 Great Forza 5 rubbish.....

Is what I thought for many months, listening to my mates telling me it’s crap and don’t buy it. And so I listened and didn’t buy it…until a week ago. To be honest Forza 5 was the main reason I traded in my Xbox 360 and 50 odd games. To say I’m stunned is an understatement. What a massive leap forward, the Nurburgring is just awesome, and I’ve been doing laps there since 1998 (virtual ones, even though I was there for real in 1976).
At 52 years young this game gives me enormous entertainment and challenges me every time I play it. I’m certainly not the best but there are far more people behind me than in front in the rankings :wink:

Well done Turn 10, I’m converted!

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Forza 5 is a step forward in many areas, but it is also a step backwards in many areas. I’m not going to beat a dead horse, because those areas have been listed several times.

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I am glad for you, unfortunately I am not that easy to please…

The absence of Fujimi Kaido, Ralli di Positano and from what I read here no Auction House, no Mapple Valley means that until T10 brings all of those things in Forza 5 or the later ones…there will be only one forza spinning in my Xbox console, the Forza 3 :wink:

I’m sure that other great tracks will follow, but what about Spa, Bathurst, Prague, Long Beach? all fantastic tracks, but sure I’d love all the old stuff too.

I do play Forza 3 because of the variety of cars and the tracks that only Forza 3 has, Teh Fujimi Kaido and Teh Ralli di Positano, I just love those tracks…didn’t know that Forza 5 dropped Maple Valley and Auction house until today. My main racing game is iRacing since 3-4 years for their unmodified/raw laser scanned tracks, car physics and their Superb Online-system, so I do race in Spa/Bathurst/Long Beach and many many more laser scanned circuits. What I do not have in iRacing/AC/rFactor/FA or any other game are those special tracks that I came to love the Forza franchise (Fujimi - Ralli di Positano - Maple Valley). I hope T10 take their time for Forza 6 and surprises us all with a more complete Forza game :slight_smile:

TTM, have you spent any time racing on Forza 5? You mentioned the missing tracks, but have you raced on the Prague track yet? Or Long Beach, Spa-Francorchamps or Bathurst? I’m like you in that I had favorite tracks that didn’t make it to 5, Maple Valley, for example… but there are new tracks to replace several as I mentioned. Prague is my new Maple Valley. For all of the improvements, namely in car and track detail as well as physics, I can live with a few fewer tracks, especially when they’re giving us tracks we haven’t seen before and the tracks we have seen before that made the transition look ridiculously amazing. Raced on the Nurburgring on 5 yet? You should. It’s stunning.

In short, I don’t think tracks should be what holds up your transition if that’s all there is.

IMO, I think there are other criteria that could justify a hold-out (honestly the game is not as well executed and fluid as Forza 4 for example, nor is it as complete - missing auction house, clubs, storefronts, ability to gift, cat-n-mouse, custom lobbies, clunky when checking friends status, slow menus when building car, can’t sort liveries by car, etc). But, it is a game is progress. They’ve made improvements through updates and they continue to roll out free tracks. In the meantime, I use both games, 4 and 5, since my friends are all still on 4 but I love racing on 5.

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I have spend over 4000 hours on the Forza-franchise and still counting thanks to (Fujimi Kaido and Ralli di Positano), all from Forza 1 to Forza 4. As I mentioned that my main racing game since a few years back is iRacing, there are over 50 laser scanned tracks inc. Spa/Bathurst/COTA vs. vs. My grahpicscard cost more than an Xbox One, so if stunning graphics would be my main objective, I wouldn’t be driving in Fujimi and Ralli di Positano in Forza 3, also at the time I was one of the first to setup triple screens on the Forza-franchise.

Right now I am more intrested in Realism and Online-racing, that is why most of my free time goes to iRacing but once a week for half an hour, I really enjoy taking a nice car like the 1964 Aston Martin DB5 Vantage and drive in Ralli di Positano or Fujimi Kaido. I am sure I would enjoy Prag too and if Forza 5 had the Fujimi Kaido and Ralli di Positano you can be sure that we wouldn’t have this discussion right now :wink:

As someone mentioned above, you can’t satisfy everyone and lucky us gamers that can choose to vote with our wallets :slight_smile:

I do not need any convincing for Forza 5, I am sure it is a great game and all the kudos for you who enjoys it. Unfortunately, Forza 5 in it’s current state is not a game for me.

Not trying to pick a fight just saying that if you haven’t tried FM5 you can’t say it’s bad look at the OP he listen to people and didn’t try it for ages now he’s having a ball because he took the leap. All I’m saying is have a go at it you may be pleasantly surprised that you did, I know I was and still am loving this game.

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The people that complained were just plain ridiculous. They complained about the amount of content, pointing out how FM4 had way more cars, but that sort of talk basically figures Turn 10 should have just copy-pasted all old content as-is into FM5, which would mean more content but mostly of inferior quality. FM5 still had more cars, not counting DLC, than virtually any racing game, yet somehow that wasn’t enough. Most games don’t have 100 cars, let alone 200+. Sure, more tracks would’ve been nice, but if we waited for a bunch more tracks, it would be 2015 before we have the game. If Turn 10 just dumped all old content into FM5, then the complaints would have been about how crappy it looks and how inaccurate Nurburgring was.

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There are unpteen threads about this is missing, that is missing. Go put in your wants in the corresponding wish lists and go about your business.

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I love this game and the upgrades that have been made physics. The low track and car count is something I’ve experienced in the past when going from an old system to a brand new one. The tracks we have are my favorites and of the ones missing Mugello, Sonoma Raceway and Hockenheimring are the three I’d like to have back. The people complaining must not have been around or remember the days of games with 5 to 8 cars that you couldn’t modify or tune with 5 tracks and physics that didn’t represent the real world.

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There is no need for an Auction House or Store Front.

you may share your tunes, designs and vinyl groups for free.

I really don’t understand peoples obsession with making money in this game. The only thing money is used for is buying cars and applying upgrades. Which is all a very cheap process.

Collect your forza rewards and do races. I have 70 tuned cars and I am still sitting on 12mil. I have no use for money as everything is either cheap or free.

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Exactly I have played this game a bit over 100hours now and have 500 cars and sitting on around 60mill credits. You make a stupid amount of credits in this game.

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I have almost 100 million credits in this game. I have nothing to spend it on except the occasional car upgrades. The DLC cars are all free. They lowered the cost of all the cars significantly from what they cost when the game was released before they even made the DLC cars free in-game for the one-time thing.

As it was said, there is no need for an auction house or storefront. There is still the ability to share tunes and designs. If you are the kind that tunes or paints, you still get money from people using your files.

The substance of the game is in the on-track action, and no game from the previous console generation can compete with Forza 5 in the driving department. Hands down.

We’d all like more tracks and cars, but what we do have in Forza 5 is top quality and plenty to keep a person busy and keep racing interesting.

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Everyone thinks this game is a step backwards, but it really isn’t. EVERYTHING had to be redone completely to make for a much better and much more quality experience. I would take quality over quantity any time in a Forza game. There is a lot of quantity in this game, and it will build up fast. I reckon by Forza 6 we will most likely be back on par with Forza 3 from where it was at back on the 360. The car list is still larger than most racing games, and with the amount of detail that goes into each car, that is saying something. The track detail is immense and the fact that Turn 10 are giving away all of the new tracks pretty much is their apology for the lack of content that people were expecting. People ask for the same tracks back all of the time, then complain because there aren’t enough new tracks being added. They could have probably left Spa and Prague out and brought in Fujimi instead, and people would still complain. You can’t please everyone.

Turn 10, just bring back the Auction House and Storefront and, apparently, Fujimi, or some alternative to it, in Forza 6 and I think a majority of people will be satisfied, but you will never please everyone.

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OP, glad you like the game. FM5 may have less features but the game is still great. I’m really impressed with the laser scanned tracks as well as the added rumble in the triggers. I would also say to T10 it’s a job well done. FM5 in my eyes is a giant leap forward overall when compared to FM4.

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I was sold on FM5 the moment I saw the first preview video. I knew then it wasn’t so much an “if” but a “when.” I was not surprised by the smaller car and track count. I knew everything had to be rebuilt from the ground up for the new-gen game, and I’ve experienced this before in other games (GT2 to GT3.) I’ve been enjoying FM5 since I got my X-Box One.