Figured out what is causing the unbelivably fast drivatars in career mode

[funky_dunk_1977]

@RM_KrypticKhaos

@funky_dunk_1977

@RM_KrypticKhaos

If you ever get the chance, view a replay and switch to the fastest driveatar, now turn on the telemetry and select the traction/friction screen (Four green circles). You will notice that they very, very rarely exceed traction, even over bumps and rumble strips. I watched one the other day where my friends driveatar got hit by another driveatar and still he held traction as if nothing happened! The driveatar physics are broken. T10, please fix the driveatar physics.

This can be varified by looking at your own driveatar statistics. Simply go to the options screen and find the My Driveatar tab, scrool down and look at all the insane g forces and weight loads displayed. I dont know how to upload a screen shot here but I will give a fiew examples…
My driveatar stats
Max Lateral G’s - 19,924
Max Acceleration G’s - 19,473
Max Braking G’s - 20,003
Max Front Left Tire Load - 26,700 LB
Max Front Right Tire Load - 26,648 LB
( Please note that any real driver would be liquified under these forces!! )

Ect…ect…ect… and it also states that my driveatar has had no major collisions. If thats true, where are these insane stats coming from with the tire loads? I dont recall building and tuning a tank in this game that handles 10 times better than a Formula 1 car. Its no wonder the driveatars are so quick…

Has been speculated that these high G ratings are crashes - which in real life can easily exceed 20G (a fatal level of G force in a crash is often described as 50-100G) and the highest I have seen for an estimated G force in a crash with the driver surviving was in F1 - about 177 G estimated from a crash at the 1977 Silverstone GP.

I understand what your saying, and you are probably correct that those stats are most likely from a wreck. I will stand by my statement of the driveatars hardly ever losing grip though. Its hard to say something isn’t broken when you see a driveatar take a brutal impact and keep driving like nothing ever happened. I have also seen the driveatars go screaming into a turn and manage to hold it even though the speed they carried into the turn should have put them off the track. I don’t mean they are cornering faster, what I am refering to is when you see one cook the corner and at the last second turn, keep it on the track while still carrying thier speed. All while never braking traction.

I don’t disagree that the Drivatars are broken (and no it isn’t just friends, I have seen random Drivatars flogging the rest of the field by 15+ seconds), just that the G readings are not evidence of them being broken. The fact that Drivatars are racing at paces that would make them a top ten time on the leaderboards, and the fact that it is often only one of them and he is so much faster than the other 22 Drivatars says that there is something wrong (unless T10 have adopted the Merc F1 theory on “racing” which is the most boring and unfun thing to watch and even worse if you are playing/participating - racing is supposed to be about competition, not having one car peel away).
Limiting agression seems to help a bit but like you I cannot believe the speeds and lines that some of these superfast drivatars take.

[jasonr71]

Thanks to all for your tips, however some of you may have misunderstood what I was specifically talking about. I have no problems racing in career mode on expert mode, or rival events where i can select my own car to drive. I am increasing my lap times and moving up the ladder in Rivals events where I can select my own car. I was talking about the ‘Rivals’ events where you don’t have the option to chose whatever vehicle you wish to drive to beat the fastest time.

For example, the very first event in the VIP category, Watkins Glenn - Ford Mustang (I think it’s a 2014 model). You can’t select a car that you think is going to perform better! Every one who participates in these specific rival events have a equal chance, simply because we are all driving the same car under the same conditions.

Obviously there is a lot of variances that determine whether or not a driver has a chance of beating the best lap times, but as I was saying in my last post, it still leaves me baffled how the drivers with the best lap times can drive without Traction and Stability control, or even if they turn stability off, and are able to successfully keep the car on the road without sliding/drifting around corners whilst achieving the best lap times.

In the above event - VIP Rivals event at Watkins Glenn with the Ford Mustang, I turned traction and stability control off just like the drivers with the best lap times, and when I drove it the same way, flat out like I do in expert mode in career mode where I win all the events, I couldn’t keep the car on the road when cornering! It would slide all over the place!

Maybe it’s me, and I just need to drive without traction and stability mode on and get use to it. But I too, have been driving racing Sims for the last 25 years, and I would consider myself a pretty good driver. (Expert Mode)

I will take RM KrypticKhaos advice and watch the best lap replays with the telemetry on and see exactly how they do it.

Cheers and Happy Sim Racing

[B_Wald_Big_Mek]

Keep in mind, that guy or girl who set that #1 time may have grinded for an hour or two to set that time, turning lap after lap until they achieve an almost-perfect run.

[XPR_Dartman_Dan]

As B Wald said very well, the higher the ranking is toward the top in many cases the more laps it took to get there. Not always but for me that’s how it works. If you see a time of mine near the top it is almost always after spending a ton of laps to get that time. I nearly every lap will mess up at least 1 corner so it takes a lot of laps before a complete good lap gets put in. By saying mess up I don’t mean dirty the lap but rather didn’t get through the corner as fast as I thought possible for me.