Do you Miss TrueSkill

It would be an excellent update if you could add trueskill to the online lobby, that ranking was the best in forza motorsport.

Best regards your frien MEX SENNA

Nope. I not only don’t miss it, I don’t even know what it is.

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Trueskill is a system that runs behind the scenes in order to rank the skill of players.

You could go up or down your rank playing online, and you would be cataloged for your rank, it was able on Forza Motorsport 2

TrueSkill (now TrueSkill 2: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/trueskill-2-improved-bayesian-skill-rating-system/) is just the name of a Mirosoft-developed matchmaking algorithm. TrueSkill or not, Forza has an algorithm of some type. Don’t get hung up on the name.

Perhaps TrueSkill 2 is what drives the ranking system for leagues. Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe Turn 10 uses an amalgamation that incorporates parameters more suitable for rating gamers in racing titles, since TrueSkill seems to be purpose-built for shooters.

Either way, I can’t say I “miss it.” Not only because I’m not certain if some form of it still exists in Forza, but because these types of things, with the introduction of cloud computing and more, must evolve. 2005 matchmaking (when TrueSkill originated) is probably archaic by today’s standards.

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In a word No. In FM3 it was visible and resulted in 95% of players doing absolutely anything to not lose and therefore caused nearly everyone to use leaderboard cars and drive like a child having a tantrum. Making it not visible was a hugely positive step and resulted in less people having that win at all costs mentality. Granted there are still plenty of people that drive like that but if it was still visible today, the lobbies would be worse than what they are now.

Also it really doesn’t need to be visible as you have either leagues or the leaderboards to tell you where you rank. If you need an algorithm to declare you a champion or a legend then I think you have bigger problems!!

However I do think that maybe the devs could display some more of the info behind trueskill - for example win percentage etc. Just my 2 cents.

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TrueSkill still exists, you simply don’t see the number associated with your rating anymore.

That being said there are so many Hoppers now that TrueSkill’s effectiveness is diminished since there aren’t as many players per Hopper to match make against.

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Nope having true skill show a rank was such a bad idea, people would try to wreck you and if that failed they would quit once they saw they had no chance to win.

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Exactly this

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Even if you do not have trueskill, people will tell you that you are better than them and they will start to hit you, with the trueskill indicative wise in whom you could trust to run and who could not. The best would be ghost lobby

Ghost lobbies isn’t racing, it’s hotlapping with random people.

I do get what you mean, part of the playerbase takes offence to the fact you are a quick driver. My advice would be to deliberately pull out slower cars to make the racing closer and then maybe they won’t target you as you won’t be winning as much. Or we can hope that when the race penalty system is implemented that this sort of behaviour stops!

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TRG Wacky Gt agree penalty system will be the best option =) best regards