Class A ghost league is horrible this week...JMO

[MEDIC_1]

have to say the A class ghost league is utterly boring this week… 90 percent of lobby is driving BAC mono race after race after race… I wish the car was banned from the lobbies… Yeah its a great grippy fast car and prolly has an advantage… But its just boring to keep racing the monos over and over… Yeah ive used different cars but you almost dont have a chance against it… Its so easy to drive its always at the top… No skill really needed to drive it… Ive driven it and finish top 5 every race but no skill needed and not fun…Anyways just a rant I guess… I love the ghost league but it sux this week…

The regular contact A class lobbies arent the same …Theres not monos throughout the lobby because contact will send them flying.

[DeathMetalRacer]

I agree it’s pretty boring this week. I’ve maybe done a handful of races in the A class ghost league. The lobby I was in had fifteen people and twelve of them were driving the Mono. If people want to drive Mono’s all day long that’s cool but it’s just not for me. I prefer to race in lobbies with a variety of cars.

On a side note the Rally Day Heroes league has been loads of fun with mostly clean racing.

[MEDIC_1]

@DeathMetalRacer

I agree it’s pretty boring this week. I’ve maybe done a handful of races in the A class ghost league. The lobby I was in had fifteen people and twelve of them were driving the Mono. If people want to drive Mono’s all day long that’s cool but it’s just not for me. I prefer to race in lobbies with a variety of cars.

On a side note the Rally Day Heroes league has been loads of fun with mostly clean racing.

Yes rally day is fun

[im2fast4u711]

I’m in pinnacle, the alphas are running A class. It’s pretty sad that they added hundreds of new cars but only a handful can ever be used if you want to win.

[PJTierney]

@im2fast4u711

I’m in pinnacle, the alphas are running A class. It’s pretty sad that they added hundreds of new cars but only a handful can ever be used if you want to win.

Ghost leagues are essentially hotlapping contests, which means that whatever cars top the overall leaderboards will be the one worth using. The easiest way to be competitive is to use whatever the winner/leader is using, so those cars at the top of the boards will simply become more popular over time until somebody finds a car/build combo that can out-perform said leaderboard car.

Bear in mind that Leagues are competitive by nature, and using the tools (cars) that provide you with the best chance of winning is an essential part of playing to win.

If a car is banned, people will find the next best car and use that. If that car subsequently gets banned the process repeats itself until there are no cars to choose from.

[SRT_Jonathan]

@PJTierney

@im2fast4u711

If a car is banned, people will find the next best car and use that. If that car subsequently gets banned the process repeats itself until there are no cars to choose from.

Yes, that would be true if all cars offered an unfair advantage over the others. But once you take out the stradales and the monos, most every other car can be competitive in some context. If you were to look at leaderboards and completely ignore those two cars (in A class), i’m sure you would find a nice variety with maybe still 1 or 2 cars that, indeed are quicker on a particular track, but not to the point of rendering any other car useless regardless of the driver’s skill.

Some cars would be fast, Zagatos or maybe 350r’s, but i’m sure with time others would be made to be as competitive as those. I think that’s where the fun lies, at least for me, to find cars and make them as fast or faster than cars on the top.

The way it’s set up now, there is no way to build a car that has 6.4 handling 8.8(?) Acceleration and weighs i don’t know any more how much a BAC weighs anymore, but you get the point.

What i’m saying is the PI system is the problem. Fix the PIs for those few cars obviously underclassed. They did something similar in Forza 4 with the muscle cars…

[im2fast4u711]

@Joetben15

@PJTierney

@im2fast4u711

If a car is banned, people will find the next best car and use that. If that car subsequently gets banned the process repeats itself until there are no cars to choose from.

Yes, that would be true if all cars offered an unfair advantage over the others. But once you take out the stradales and the monos, most every other car can be competitive in some context. If you were to look at leaderboards and completely ignore those two cars (in A class), i’m sure you would find a nice variety with maybe still 1 or 2 cars that, indeed are quicker on a particular track, but not to the point of rendering any other car useless regardless of the driver’s skill.

Some cars would be fast, Zagatos or maybe 350r’s, but i’m sure with time others would be made to be as competitive as those. I think that’s where the fun lies, at least for me, to find cars and make them as fast or faster than cars on the top.

The way it’s set up now, there is no way to build a car that has 6.4 handling 8.8(?) Acceleration and weighs i don’t know any more how much a BAC weighs anymore, but you get the point.

What i’m saying is the PI system is the problem. Fix the PIs for those few cars obviously underclassed. They did something similar in Forza 4 with the muscle cars…

You’re exactly right

[MEDIC_1]

@PJTierney

@im2fast4u711

I’m in pinnacle, the alphas are running A class. It’s pretty sad that they added hundreds of new cars but only a handful can ever be used if you want to win.

Ghost leagues are seentially hotlapping contests, which means that whatever cars top the overall leaderboards will be the one worth using. The easiest way to be competitive is to use whatever the winner/leader is using, so those cars at the top of the boards will simply become more popular over time until somebody finds a car/build combo that can out-perform said leaderboard car.

Bear in mind that Leagues are competitive by nature, and using the tools (cars) that provide you with the best chance of winning is an essential part of playing to win.

If a car is banned, people will find the next best car and use that. If that car subsequently gets banned the process repeats itself until there are no cars to choose from.

Understood,but the league the way points are given really have no bearing where you are ranked… What gets you ranked higher is more time racing in the league… Thats it…
So its not really to gain points and get ranked higher by winning because you can be number one ranked if you just race 24 hours a day and finish 10th…Or worse… Not a good points system…

[SRT_Jonathan]

Yeah, i agree. When it’s not the mono it’s the 33 stradale anyway, and it’s not cool. Makes me wish the PI system was more balanced

[MEDIC_1]

Yeah definately seems those two cars have an unfair advantage all day long.

[B_Wald_Big_Mek]

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

[MEDIC_1]

@B_Wald_Big_Mek

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

To me I get sick of driving the same car race after race.I would want to think most people would get sick of it too…Guess not…

[DeathMetalRacer]

@MEDIC_1

@B_Wald_Big_Mek

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

To me I get sick of driving the same car race after race.I would want to think most people would get sick of it too…Guess not…

I enjoy a wide variety of cars whether they’re super competitive or not. I would be bored out of my mind if all I ever drove was the same handful of cars even if it ment I was winning tons of races.

[theSNaiL46]

@DeathMetalRacer

@MEDIC_1

@B_Wald_Big_Mek

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

To me I get sick of driving the same car race after race.I would want to think most people would get sick of it too…Guess not…

I enjoy a wide variety of cars whether they’re super competitive or not. I would be bored out of my mind if all I ever drove was the same handful of cars even if it ment I was winning tons of races.

It’s funny how they all change cars when Daytona tracks cycle in…love passing the few who stick with their mono on this track or indy tracks.

[MEDIC_1]

@theSNaiL46

@DeathMetalRacer

@MEDIC_1

@B_Wald_Big_Mek

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

To me I get sick of driving the same car race after race.I would want to think most people would get sick of it too…Guess not…

I enjoy a wide variety of cars whether they’re super competitive or not. I would be bored out of my mind if all I ever drove was the same handful of cars even if it ment I was winning tons of races.

It’s funny how they all change cars when Daytona tracks cycle in…love passing the few who stick with their mono on this track or indy tracks.

Yeah I pull out my Dodge fast and furious car and win by like 3/4 of a lap… Funny blowing by everyone on the long straight away…

[moparjay]

@B_Wald_Big_Mek

Yep, BAC Mono or Alfa 33, no one bothers with anything else. LB cars have always been an irritating side-effect of the way T10 sets up car classes in these games, but FM6 takes it to a whole new level.

450 cars, 2 to 6 are competitive per class.

I have neither car in my garage. I think I won a BAC from a spin and sold it. It’s like wild game hunting at the zoo. And have you ever had to follow one of those BAC’s on a rain track? You cant see.

[B_Wald_Big_Mek]

Indeed. I spend a lot of time cruising solo in Free Play, so I can enjoy the car list without worrying whether car “x” is “competitive” or can be “made to win”.

EDIT: This is why “cycled production” lobbies were so good in FM5. No LB cars, no glitch tunes, just driver skillz.

[Suliz]

I won a race tonight with a Lotus Exige S in the A-class Ghost league. Of course, there were only 3 people in the lobby, and one of them dropped out after half a lap, but a win is a win!

Never actually won a multiplayer race in Forza. Not just 6, all of them since 2.

Pretty sure I will retire from multiplayer now and live off the endorsement contracts I expect will be coming my way any day now.

[chielhier313]

And that isn’t the only issue, because you’re forgetting about the corner cutting. Like somebody else already mentioned, we need more sticky grass. Bugatti circuit is one of the worst.

[DOR_Uccio]

I gave up on a class league after one race, I was the only person not in a mono and didn’t want to use it as it is boring.

Have to say I thought the rally heroes league would be rubbish but it’s been the best so far, close racing, quite a few cars can be competitive and it has been mostly clean racing too.