Car Points

Forza Motorsport Forza Motorsport (2023) Discussion
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Its obvious that whomever designed Car Points either doesn’t play racing games or actively hates gamers.

Car Points are the worst feature I’ve ever seen in the a video game. How do you make racing, the fundamental thing about a Forza game… a GRIND.

Why are series limited to 4 cars, and then I have to earn points in that car to UPGRADE IT!? WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU DO THIS!?

By the time I finish the series my car isn’t even upgraded to the series limited class. WHY!? WHY Would you do this?

Maybe, I like actually tuning my cars. Maybe the stock tunes are absolute garbage and the only reason why I lose a race is because the garbage tuning but yet I can even change my gear ratio because ITS LOCKED!

WHY!?

You’ve made a single player game a grind, a pointless b.s grind. You limited the races in a such a way that you can’t even race the same car in multiple classes. WHY!?

God this game is frustrating and it shouldn’t be. Get rid of the awful decision to have car points, stop making it a grind. The homologation system SUCKED and you resorted to even worst system with car points.

Its awful. Terrible. I love how the reviews are just trashing this game and its well deserved.

Last forza game, unless you ditch the car points, and the homologation system from F7 and actively stop hating gamers.

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I can’t even change the look of my car, body kits cost car points, rims cost car points. I guess if you like driving a car off the showroom and not being able to upgrade it at all until you are almost finished with the series and to never drive the car again… then sure? Like seriously whiskey tango foxtrot? It almost feels like a system that is suppose to have microtransactions.

Want more car points? Pay us 19.99$ for 500 car points so you can upgrade your car.

Turn 10 has lost its way. Its time to shut the doors folks.

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You mean you don’t enjoy collecting soul spheres to summon the Bahamugen exhaust and slay the drift king of Maple Valley?!

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Turn 10 are becoming a joke within the gaming industry. They’re almost as bad as Atari at the moment.

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Bro, if you cant win a singleplayer race in a stock car with the PI balanced AI. Thats a you problem. not the tunes problem.

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Nearly driver level 70 and still I don’t have any car leveled up to 50. There is no reason to use one car in more than ONE cup! So the f-ing Career mode is not even compatible with CXP.
They adjusted unlock levels in update 1, but still you don’t have points to do anything, so completely useless in the end.
If they added more custom parts for a car, and included car mileage, service, damage cost, nicknaming a car, real detailed customisation than it would be some kind of carRPG…
But nooo, they slapped car levels on to the car and apart for grind you don’t have anything from it…
Everything is so rushed and half-assed…
Then they will hail their commitment to the game when they add wheel-spacers…

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To a certain point, above expert level 6, the cars 1-3 on the grid are going to leave you in the dust no matter the tune (except for top of the class maxed out). 4-23 are just moving road blocks. The stock cars tunes are rough, no doubt, but IMO the stock tires are garbage from the jump, and you don’t unlock those right away.

Tires PI cost is still high, so many of the classes below A (depending on the car) can barely fit sport tires, let alone racing tires and if you upgrade your handling, your pace is extremely limited by the lack of power. This forces the continuation of “power builds” and will plague multiplayer and rivals like previous iterations of the game.

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In the builders cup, yes, you usually arent given enough laps to compete with 1st and 2nd. Which is when you need to just put yourself in 3rd place if you want to win that badly. But none of the stock cars are so horrible to drive in the singleplayer that you NEED a custom tune to make them drivable.

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I can name four of them that absolutely are.

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Drivable ≠ Competitive. Like I said, the tires are a big part of this. Stock tires causing unrealistic tail out moments at low speed (50 mph or lower) and the PI cost for even “street” tires is laughable.

There seems to be a severe drop off in the grip levels from stock to “street” and on upward. My daily driver has what would be considered “street” aftermarket tires, as they are not track day tires (not truly anyways). I would absolutely struggle to get the backend to step out (unless I drove like a complete buffoon, but alas it’s not a Mustang).

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You mean theres a severe increase from street on upward?
I would disagree if you meant it the way you said it. From Street upward theres an increase in grip levels.
But this is a bit beside the point. You have less grip. which is why its a lower PI than a race car. You dont need race slicks on every car you drive to be competitive. Or any of them. OP is experiencing a certified ‘skill issue’ moment (which is fine, I experience one of those every day getting out of bed).
Brake earlier, coast more, learn to drive slower cars fast. You do not require a custom tune on any car in the game to make them work.
Classic race cars with classic tires are incredibly difficult to drive due to their utter lack of grip. This is part of the challenge for racing them at slower speeds. Its fine to not like that kind of racing. preferring the more stable modern grip. But that doesnt mean the game aught to change to allow every scenario the same level of high grip on any cars tune.
Now arguing that the level you get to unlock better tires is another thing. I could get behind that just fine. My point is just to push against the notion that every car needs a tune to be competitive or race slicks to be drivable.

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You are correct, I had that backwards. Severe jump, not drop off. Also, I never said you NEED slicks, but in many cases the stock tires aren’t enough to be competitive.

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I wasn’t referring to a classic car or series of cars. I was referring to a more modern car ('03 M5). An early 2000’s car (while being 20 or close to 20 years old) isn’t the same as a 50+ year old Cobra or something in the same age range.

To be fair, there are other cars that seem to have an extreme amount of grip on their stock tires, which makes them far more competitive from the jump. Or we could mention the MX-5 (Miata) of any flavor being OP in D through B class rivals. But that’s another topic…

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I didnt say you were, I was using that as an example.

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The part that gets me the most is you get a RACE car that already has all the RACING parts so what good are 8050 Car Points on my Ginetta?
Why not let me use those on other cars. Its so dumb i have useless Car Points

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