Exactly. This is where your walled garden environments suck.
Xbox users are being forced to pay the super high premium for not so better then the competitor hardware. Sony was much more generous in its support.
Or another perspective.
You could have bought a kickass PC + G27 and cruise on through happy days.
I ordered the TX, from walmart actually, and picked up a 3 year extended warranty for $27. Then I threw in a set of T3PA Pro Wheels. Guess we will see, if I like it. If not, I will just return it all.
I usually don’t see any benefit in warranty extensions for electronic gadgets, but in case of the TX it definitely makes sense 
Grats, hope you are going to enjoy it. Its a great combo for FM/FH and it really adds to the immersion once you got all the settings adjusted to your preference.
Have fun
I received my wheel stand for the 458 spider wheel and after a few hours of use my initial impressions are it’s an excellent starter wheel or those on a budget. However, it would have been better if it would have come with at least a rumble motor for a little more feedback to what’s going on with the car. With the spider wheel, you really have to listen to what the car is doing instead of feel. This makes it more difficult to drive with, but one you get the hang of it, is great fun. Again, I’m waiting to see what fanatec does for another Xbox one product before I consider buying a ffb wheel. Who knows, if fanatec does bring a more affordable wheel to the market, it might make TM lower the price a little of the TX.
Fanatec will bring something to what they call the “mid” level. It’s just going to take a while…
A long while.
If they are smart they will get it out in due to FM6.
I agree, but they will not have it ready in time for FM6’s release. At least that’s what I believe. I hope I am wrong though.
I have had a tx for 15 months now and it still works great. Not sure if I was one of the lucky ones, but so far so great with the wheel. I have the tp3a pedals, the gte rim, and the th8a to go along with it. So a total investment of around $650 ish. The tx was $300ish when i got. I hate how Thrustmaster has marketed their products, but honestly for the price compared to Fanatec and how good their stuff has been for me, I don’t regret buying it instead of going with Fanatec again (had a Porsche Turbo S Wheel before the tx). The PTSW eventually died after about 300 hours of use. If you buy the csw v2 wheel base and the xbox universal add on, and once you include shipping, you are at $1000. Add in pedals and the shifter and you are sitting at $1500. At that price point you could buy two of everything from Thrustmaster! Fanatec needs to be more realistic with their price points. Especially considering the quality isn’t twice as good.
The CSW V2 and the Thrusty TX do, and don’t really compete in the same market. With the CSW, Fanatec is going after the premium end of the market, and the TX is a mid market product.
That doesn’t make the CSW a bargain… It’s still to much for me to justify. But it’s not really intended to be direct competition to the TX/T300.
And it will fail right there as anyone with sense will spend the extra couple hundred $$$ and buy the accuforce pro, or go higher with frex/bodnar etc.
What makes the Fanatec CSW a senseless purchase?
Nothing.
Extra Couple Hundred equals to around 500 euros or 700 dollars depending on the rim you get.
“Couple Hundred”. I wish I could pull that sort of money out of my pocket like magic.
Since we are on it, how does the Thrusty TX hold up in terms of feedback, specially on PC? Strong? Detailed?
Regarding reliability, what kind of problems does it have?
FFB is always stronger on PC, regardless of the wheel. Im sure you know this already so…
Reliability is the same as you are already aware. One could argue its easier to kill a wheel on PC being able to control the strength and effects more.
Well, if Im spending that amount of money on something that is meant to be “premium” gear, I would expect a much longer average lifetime then ~ 1 year and issues that were consistant previously to be fixed, but they arent. Same motor stories etc.
A CSWv2 setup, without pedals (uni hub, wheel) is 1299.85 + shipping.
The accuforce pro is 1748.00 + shipping.
A $448.05 difference and one by all accounts (time will tell obviously) is practically bulletproof and is a direct drive motor which delivers a much stronger and detailed FFB, combined with the sim commander software which some could argue is worth that difference alone.
If the AU$ didnt drop so hard when they released I would have bought one. By the time you add conversion, customs duty (over $1K) etc, it pushed the wheel up to $3000AU. When it was good it would have been just under $2K AU.
I’ve read that the detail is much better than what is delivered by FM5 on the Xbone, but I didn’t find a lot on longevity.
I do believe every wheel, pedal set and shifter combination has its drawbacks. Don’t confuse compatible with plug and play. Don’t expect everything to work properly all at once, don’t expect the units to last either.
This is not a good time to be in the market for a dependable long lasting plug and play set up. Do not expect anything advertised as wireless to be wireless.
I really like online racing with the x box and Forza, but the hardware choices are just not what I expected.
After spending alot of money on a set up to race. The xbox, the cockpit, and a cheap spider wheel to get started. I immediately had problems. My box crashed and died, so i bought another x box while the first one was out for repair.
So then I get some headphones, 4 pairs of new headphones before I got a pair that worked. Then the chat only sometimes works, even now.
I upgraded to a g27 wheel not realizing I needed to buy and adapter, so I get the adapter, it works ok but it’s far from plug and play. The chat doesn’t work at all with this set up.
the I look at the thrustmaster and fanatec offerings and iam beginning to see a pattern of overpriced hardware with poor support.
I don’t plan on buying anything more than what I have unless it’s a whole new platform, that’s really compatible with the box.
My next wheel will be high quality like the accuforce or nothing. It seems a pc set up is the best way to race.
I cannot fault you for that.
Accuforce does sell a “complete” wheel product… Perhaps Microsoft should reach out to them and see if they’d be willing to join the fray? Some would like that.
That would also make financing one of their full motion experience rigs more appealing. (But then someone would have to figure out how to go 3 screens with Forza.) LOL
unlikely unless they were guaranteed compatibility with whatever platform comes next. Im not sure how well it would work without the sim commander software either that allows you a lot of control over the FFB signals sent to the wheel. eg
[ A accuforce pro user on wmd]
"Okay, I figured out why I wasn’t getting any telemetry to SC. I had to enable shared memory - I thought it was on by default earlier in previous builds. That did the trick and then laps were showing in SC. I then created a SC-only FFB profile using laps from the Radical SR3 with a few mouse clicks and the results upon testing were stunning. I thought that I had been getting very good FFB using the game FFB but, this was now on a whole new level. There was easily twice as much detail, and the engine vibration coming through the wheel - increasing frequency with the rev’s - fantastic. The bumps and curbs were more pronounced but, each one has it’s own character. Going off-track now had real consequences with harsher and more violent bumps. I did have to add some smoothing in SC to round the peaks a bit, at first the road feel was quite harsh and it really felt like the car was rolling on steel wheels. Once I made that change, the rubber was definitely meeting the road.
This experience really highlights just how much is going on with the physics in Pcars as SC uses suspension data to supply the FFB to the wheel. Very, very impressive."
If anyone has a TX and wishes to use Fanatec clubsport Pedels there is an adapter to make them work. Best of both worlds.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141629366559?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
Look Dust, I don´t know where you picked up the line “Anything other than the Accuforce will break” but it really is starting to get annoying. Over the last few years I realized that alot of people simply don´t know how to use and take care of their hardware, hence why it breaks easily. I´ve had friends with Fanatecs and they didn´t fail. I deal and drive with T500RSs whenever I go to a “Simulator House” and they don´t break. Simply put, they don´t, and trust me, they get a lot of punching and are constantly being abused.
Logitechs can last a decade if they are treated correctly and I´m fondly starting to believe that people forget to do the mandatory TX upgrade when they purchase it. Why? The T300RS, which is the same base, has very little reported issues.
I also remember reading stories of CSWV1 problems because people “overclocked” their motors and now you keep posting that CSWV2s also has issues. Apart from one or two I have yet to see them despite asking you for links to those reports.
The Accuforce is a very good wheel and I truly believe in that. It has to be, for the price they are asking. That doesn´t mean the rest is trash.
Regarding the Clubsport you need to remind yourself that the world is not Australia and the price can differ from country to country. Also 400 dollars is a lot of money.
Be glad that there are different segments for wheels otherwise sim-racing would be dead.