It would appear there is still some confusion on this subject so I will attempt to explain it clearly.
I have color coded the in game slider to help make this clear.
BLUE represents REAR force.
YELLOW represents FRONT force.
This is the DEFAULT setting of 50%, which means the braking force is divided equally, 50% to the front, 50% to the rear.
This is a setting of 40%, which means 40% braking force to the rear, 60% to the front.
This is a setting of 60%, which means 60% braking force to the rear, 40% to the front.
WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN?
When you move the slider LEFT, which people interpret as FRONT, you are increasing the rear bias.
When you move the slider RIGHT, which people interpret as REAR, you are increasing the front bias.
Gentlemen, gentlemen. This thread is for information only and has nothing to do with whatever long standing feud you may have. Please don’t get it locked.
It is backwards from the previous games if anyone wanted to know why there was confusion. You want your car to spin out, move it left, want it to understeer then move it right.
What are hot loppers?
Thanks for the thread Foot, I posted a link to this in the tuning guide
who me? I dont tune man, i just drive em. I would really like to know what the basis is of the derogatory/negative comment you made about vvv and Nasty. Back in the day several vvv boys tested and ran times for Nasty and more often than not they rolled over many others on the LB’s. These cars where tuned by Jez for the populace of Forza.net and then driven/tested by the vvv’s, the Jed of these very own forums at a time and many other fast respected racers. I can fondly recall vvv zeragon mashing LB times in 5-6laps with a Nasty car and I was posting the sales pitch as he did it track by track lol. Fun days.
VVV boys most of the time need “knife-edge” tunings to compete, ubog do this? no Nasty do this? no. As a result of this many vvv’s tuned faster for them selves. Nasty has been lied to, imitated and resented since day1 in Forza. We are old yet still Nasty and will stand up for ourselves. We respect all until disrespected. Your comment in this post that I interpet as a confusing bias slider is uncalled for, childish, offtopic and outdated. Please keep your junk out of Nasty’s junk so to speak ok? Many folks here now were not back during the glory-days of Forza and are not victims of rumors lies an resentment like some still appear to be . Yeah, were back- hope thats not a problem. And remember folks! fast tuners build fast cars!
My God, I am shaking my head in disbelief right now. The bad tidings go all the way back to 2007-2008 and none of you guys have learned to just move on? I’ve known both ECT AND Nasty since before all of the message board nonsense and I consider both parties to be enjoyable people to be around as well as good teams, but you are both wrong. What may or may not have gone down back then is of ABSOLUTELY NO CONSEQUENCE today, especially since this game’s community is pretty much flatlining and arguing or sniping at each other isn’t helping.
since JEZNASTY’s brake bias thread got closed (and redirected to this thread) I’m posting my response here.
Yes, I too have played around with the settings using the benchmark as a reference. I have been personally questioning the benchmark numbers after plotting out the tire pressure vs braking distance. While it is clear that there is a sweet spot, the curve is far from smooth. Even in the sweet spot there are anomalies that I just cannot explain. For tire pressure, the sweet spot on benchmark screen is typically 30~35 psi BUT I take this as WARM temperature so I set the cold tires at 27~29 psi.
Since the brake bias is HIGHLY dependent on traction, I think same anomaly applies. Brake bias, however, would be much more sensitive to changes than the tire pressure. The brake distance calculation jumps around quite randomly even at 1% changes (which it shouldn’t). So now I usually start at about 47% (=53% front/47% rear) then bring up the telemetry screen in test drive, then brake test until front locks up before the rear. If set only looking at the benchmark calculations, I find the bias is too far to the rear which require very careful braking.
