Like many others posting, I’ve been a Forza fan since the first Horizon. I’ve even convinced PS owners to have a go of the series, and at least two bought an Xbox to play it.
When FH3 shipped, I loved it , but, secretly preferred FH2 , then as time passed and 2 years later I was still racing and skilling on FH3 I’d shifted up a gear in my favourites.
I wondered if the same would happen with FH4 ?
No, not a chance.
There is no denying the stunning beauty of the visuals. The season changes are visually stunning as well as providing changing challenges. The cars are as incredible as they were in 3 , and the driving mechanics are just as awesome as ever… but…
of course a ‘but’ was coming.
I set my drivatar difficulty to expert and jumped right in on day 1.
I won, and won, and won, and 3 days later , I’d ‘won’ the whole thing…my rep counter reset after lvl 200 , I had most of the cars I wanted through the auction house or straight purchase. I stopped buying houses after three…as they were a novel idea, but ultimately useless expensive fluffery, the drone around the house in Glen Rannoch being the only worthwhile house related perk.
So, I’d finished the game, and now to try the online games and playtimes.
Wow!
What a completely broken mess? Why on earth would you change something that worked almost perfectly into an unholy mess that ruins a massive part of the game?
So, so disappointing.
Unless this game is completely reworked with a massive patch to return it to the online version of FH3 , I won’t be playing this again. Why would I ? To be fair, why would anyone? It’s wrecked and virtually unusable.
This leads me to a conclusion I don’t like and don’t really want to address as a debate, because it’s a love/hate issue.
This whole Sparkly Welllies and pink mini skirt junk, with the ridiculous car horns ( apart from forming a convoy, does anyone, ever, EVER use their horn?) and the frankly ridiculous emotes … this now HUGE part of the game may well be the reason that the multi/online aspect is so very pathetic?
I don’t care about the wellies and emotes being in the game for those who like that junk, as long as it isn’t at the expense of coding and space that could have improved the online game. The wheel spins are tedious with the junk involved. I like to race to win , but enjoyed the wheel spins in FH3 and the money or cars it paid out, but watching clothing, oogah horns and floss emotes come up repeatedly (26 out of 37 spins were junk for me at one point I’d saved up) .
So, sadly, a really awesome series of games comes to an end of an era.
Take your spandex pants, your pink top hat, your yellow wellies…shove them in your useless house, whilst honking your wedding march horn and doing press-ups… and fix the online aspect.
Otherwise myself, and I assume many like me, will just go back to FH3 … G’day Australia! I’m back!
I pretty much agree with everything you’ve said, but, unfortunately, it appears the standard response now is “if you want to race, go to Motorsports”… Obviously, the authors of this suggestion have never played FM7 Multiplayer.
It appears we may be in the minority, and I fear the old Horizon games we knew and loved are gone… out with the old, in with the new.
I want to race, but don’t want to do it on the same tracks over-and-over-and-over, which is what Motorsport is to me. If you’ve raced one version of Motorsport, you’ve raced them all.
One reason I loved Horizon was each version came with new tracks. My love of Horizon didn’t mean I was less serious about racing, just meant I loved a different type of racing. FH4 is a travesty when it comes to racing, unlike the first 3 versions of Horizon. I realized recently I’ve been going through the 7 stages of grief since FH4’s release, and I think if you peruse this forum you’ll find lots of faithful players at lots of different grief stages. I finally reached the last stage – acceptance, which unfortunately means moving on.
I’ve been back in Australia doing Online Adventure pretty much the last month. I only log into FH4 to do Forzathon stuff each week and that’s if I even feel like it. Ever want to do some Online Adventure in FH3 look me up I’m always up for good clean racing.
I’m with you on 99% of all this. I could handle the avatar clothes and dancing crap, IF it didnt clog up all the wheelspins. But it does, so instead of collecting awesome forza edition cars, I’m collecting tie dyed leggings, and chainmail skirts to wear in my halo honking car parked outside my 10million dollar money sink castle.
Agree with all of this. There’s no endgame- probably by design.
Multiplayer is not conducive to enjoyable competition. Almost all the rivals content has gone.
I wrapped up the last of the achievements I wanted, 3 starred the PR and stories etc and I’m going back to FM7.
I actually held off on buying FM7 until they put back class-based rivals a few months ago.
I’ll come back to FH4 for the expansions (I bought ultimate) and of course WHEN they put back class-based rivals.
Until then- I’ve had enough.
It’s a little early to proclaim that fh4 won’t take the place of fh3. It’s only been a little over a month, yet you gave fh3 a couple of years.
We are praying my friend.
CRracer - I don’t want to make it sound like I am disagreeing with you. On the contrary. I have a great deal of respect for the myriad posts you have made and the vast amount of helpful information you have provided to all of us.
I’m not taking anyone’s side on this issue. I have mixed feelings about the game. Some disappointment, but overall, I think it’s great.
I think the big difference between FH3 and FH4 is that FH4 has significantly fewer events to complete. A large portion of returning Horizon players have already completed FH4, in less than 4 weeks. I am one of those. Comparatively, it took me 5 months to complete all aspects of FH3. I have enjoyed playing FH4, and will continue to do so, just as I continue to enjoy playing FH3.
I am disappointed with the lack of events (races, championships, etc) and the fact that all showcase events and most barn finds were completed prior to reaching the horizon roster. I did enjoy the Horizon Story events, but those were completed too quickly for my liking.
I truly like FH4 and am not disappointed I bought it. However, it will not replace FH3.
I agree on most of the stuff in here, but 3 never came close to toppling 2 for me. The race events were rubbish by comparison, due to a combination of bad map design and very generic race design, plus almost every race involved some offroading. 4 goes the other way with most dirt races involving almost no dirt, but the cross country ones are as they should be, and road races are much better than in 3, but still none of it is as interesting as Horizon 2’s offerings.
The avatar business is clearly only to make it take longer to get money, because all that stuff jams up our wheelspins. There would almost be justification for all of that effort if we could ever actually walk around … say in our houses! … and see the avatars. But there would still need to be more stuff to do and motivation to do it.
Route Creator does offer a lot, and it would be great for 3 if they went back and added it there, given how utterly wasted most of that map was, but the way the race line is implemented is a downside, it is a lot of effort, and there needs to be a way of seeing the route of a custom made race before you sign up to it … and a way to search for them by gamertag! There is potential here, but the hype was wrong. Seasons change almost nothing - winter makes it hard to do drift zones and such, but that’s about it. There is only one race specific to winter, the frozen lake drag, and other than that almost nothing changes beyond the looks. Blizzard Mountain this is not.
Bye
It is exceedingly poor form to quote any entire lengthy post just to respond with a single word/phrase/sentence fragment.
Fair enough.
Majority > Minority.
Watch more mixer streams to see how the majority are enjoying themselves with the additions the minority complain about.
So true. I just wish the whiners would actually just quit playing the game. Why they think anyone cares about their " I’m leaving" threads is beyond me.
I like the Motorsport series better than the Horizon series so I don’t really care about this argument but I must point out the irony in you people commenting about how nobody cares about their “I’m leaving” threads. If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have bothered commenting .
That being said Horizon 2 is clearly the best because it is the only Forza game in the history of the franchise to include my baby the 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner.
Well at least your honest and admit your a motorsport fan. I’m just fed up with ones that pretend that they’re horizon fans. They know they’re not getting a new motorsport this gen so they try to turn this into one.
To all those supporting this shell of a Horizon game, take a look at this 100+ page thread from the Horizon 3 Forum, then tell me I’m not a fan of Horizon games.
I’m with the OP on this one. All previous Horizon games had leaderboards for every event and class based rivals, which allowed us to run competitive hot lap competitions. When something as major as this is omitted from a new game we have a good excuse to moan. What if they removed the paint booth or the multiplayer racing, what would people say then?
When FM7 launched Turn 10 made the same mistake by removing class based rivals. They eventually bowed to player complaints and reintroduced it. That is what should be happening with Horizon 4.
We want the ability to run D, C, B, A class cars on every track and compare our performances on leaderboards. Is that too much to ask of a car racing game?
You’ve got 93% completion and 13 Days gameplay. Is that not supporting the game? You’ve more than got your moneys’ worth. Time to move on.
T10 needs to throw some money Warner’s way to bring it back!