Stellantis question (not the usual, I don't think)

While I don’t really care too much, I’m faintly curious about this Stellantis thing. That led me to something I don’t get.

Some brands present so far in Forza games are not present in FH5. Thing is, some Stellantis brands are present. According to the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (aside - someone really should develop a Babel Fish in-ear translator) . . .

Stellantis brands not in FH5 - Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën and DS, Fiat and Fiat Professional, Lancia, Mopar

Stellantis brands that are in FH5 - Dodge and Ram, Jeep, Maserati, Opel and Vauxhall, Peugeot

I’m guessing it is probably about existing agreements - who bought whom and when they did it.

Entirely academic and unimportant, just curious, that’s all.

Stellantis might have just said ‘looks here are the cheap brands, we’ll let these go at the usual licensing price, these other brands we’ll charge a whopper for.’ They can do what they pretty much want really.

not sure about cheap brands - Maserati aren’t cheap cars and Opel/Vauxhall is huge in Europe

they can’t necessarily terminate agreements at will but of course they don’t have to agree to any new ones

I’m not saying they are cheap in real life. The criteria for what they’ll offer for licensing in gaming might be fairly arbitrary.

ah, right, indeed

The Stellantis situation is already being discussed in great detail here:

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yeah, fair enough, maybe it is the same question, just an academic curiosity for me, I’m not jumping up and down or conspiracy-theorising

wondering if there’s a short version, maybe, and fully appreciate we’re not going to find out

There is also a new YouTube video that summarizes the current situation in FH5 (and other games):

Mopar isn’t a brand, it’s the parts division for Chrysler/Dodge. Used to be called Direct Connection, before that it was Mopar as well (MoPar = Motor Parts).

My thoughts on the issue are tied into T10 and their hold on which vehicles they are willing to let PGG use in the Horizon games. If you read the game credits you will see the licensing division is part of T10 not PGG. I suspect due to the nature of the missing Stellantis brands they are holding them back for Motorsport.

Apparently my comment was so popular it now ended up on a YouTube video.

I’m a local celebrity! /s

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Popular? Or Infamous? Could go either way…lol.

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As am I, though indirectly since your comment was a reply to me, and you addressed me by my account name once in it.