Once again its irrelevant as i would have won within those parameters regardless.
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620R 100% stock no tune change. Suzuka full circuit. 2 laps. 23 drivatars. lvl 8. expert rules. avoid contact like the plague. That’s how I play.
Lol, is that how you play. A month ago you were racing against level 5 ai, thats when you were saying they must of changed a bunch of stuff because you cant win all of the sudden, but then you realized you went up to level 6 by accident.
While normally i dont mind challenges, i dont think im gonna take you up on any more. Instead of gracefully accepting the outcome and possibly asking any sort of questions about how to improve yourself, you instead try to dismiss what i did.
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That is how I’ve been playing for the last month or so. Discovered that lvl 8 is a lil more aware of their surroundings and know, more or less, how to corner so less dealing with the idiocy of the lower levels. That is how I’m playing at this very moment. I literally just ran that exact race with that exact car and exact settings.
Placed no higher than 7th because I avoid the other cars like the plague. If that means that I take a hit, so be it, I want to drive clean. The top 7 cars just ran away after I had to avoid a collision with someone in a Ford GT '17.
This is why I call nonsense on what you say. Play like I do then we can talk.
Fastest lap of mine 2:12.478
Play lile you do lol, its cool, we dont need to talk
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You did change the lap count to 5 from 2 ( normal quick event lap count ) and you did use the same car in stock/default form. So yes, I dismissed it.
What’s your excuse going to be when he wins again? He took too much curb on a particular corner? His car had a different livery? This is how ridiculous your argument sounds.
Come on, man. You called him out, he showed you up. The honorable thing to do is to admit you were wrong, say well done, learn from it, and move on. End of.
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No man. Run the track with the defaults. All defaults. If he wins again, then yes, I will. He changed the conditions. I will admit that I’ve not been able to beat the time posted so far tho so there’s that. I’m like 5 tenths off from it.
You can dismiss anything you want, doesnt mean it didnt happen. You said under 5 laps, i did under 5 laps, you said use a stock, i used the stock car you used, you said level 8, i did level 8. Now that doesnt count, now its a different car, a different set of rules to abide by because you werent right the first time.
This could have been a friendly set of challenges, instead its turned into a goal moving challenge so you can feel as though youre right. You can play however youd like to play, but stop blaming the game when youre not successful.
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You did Exactly 5 laps. nice try.
I dont know what that means, i understand it was set to 5. On spa i got the lead on lap 2, on brands it was thr beginning of lap 3. At default lap counts i would have won both races.
I would if the drivatars would stop using nefarious means to take my place or they’d stop piling up at the first turn on Spa. Tell me, how’d you avoid all of that nonsense? 9x out of ten there’ll be a ten+ car pileup at that first turn even with lvl 8 drivatars. Or the straight after Radillion. How’d you avoid them trying to push you off the road when you’re on the left and they REALLY want your place? Don’t experience all of this? I do. It’s annoying.
Did you even watch the video or are you just coming up with new ways to move goalposts
Who cares if the race defaulted to 5 laps. He cleared it in 1.1 laps
Nothing he did would’ve been flagged for improper etiquette irl
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No, I didn’t watch it. The requirements were under 5 laps because, from my experience, the Ai behavior changes a great deal when the lap count is increased above 4. I have no problem placing in the top 3 when the lap count is increased. I made a bit of a point of that really early on in this thread.
He did it in basically one lap. Even if the unproven idea of lap count affecting AI was a thing, do you think it makes them 50% faster a lap
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It changes how they behave the entire race so most likely not 50% faster, but they’re definitely faster and more aggressive when the lap count is below 5. All based on my experience. Others may vary. All I’m doing is reporting what happens to me. Nothing more, nothing less.
On the other hand when I run career races they behave completely different. I can mop lvl 8 drivatars all day in career races. No matter the lap count.
Lol. So “in your experience” ai when set above 4 laps, exactly one lap LESS than i ran, the ai are vastly different, how convenient. This past month ive read many statements from you, seemingly figuring out all the secrets of forza motorsport.
You should do some more research because ai behavior has nothing to do with lap count, absolutely nothing. This isnt an “in my experience, others may vary” situatuation, thats as convincing as saying “take my word for it”, its a meaningless statement with zero credit behind it. If you have a way to prove this, like i proved you wrong before than please do so.
Imo youre confusing perception with reality. The only reason why you perceive things this way is because of the way you race, not the ai. In a short race you have to be aggressive, putting yourself into situations where youre sharing corners with multiple cars. The odds of having contact as well as the overall feel of chaos is because the field is bunched up.
If youre doing a longer race, you dont need to be aggressive, you can wait to overtake. While thats happening the field spreads out, you then only need to worry about one opponent at a time. Its a more relaxed scenario because time is by your side.
I know none of what anyone says is going to make you see the realities of whats going on. If your able to come up with proof for your opinions, than theyll no longer be opinions, theyll be facts. If you make a statement its not up to others to prove you wrong, its up to you to prove youre right, thats how this stuff works.
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I’ve had enough of your nonsense. I didn’t say that ‘this is how it is cos I say so’ I said this is what I experience. Take that how you want. I’m done with you and your lil clique. Blocked. All of you.
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Sorry @CRSSQU4R3D, but the only nonsense here is coming from you. You set a challenge, the challenge was met (with two separate examples), and yet you’ve done nothing but come up with excuses for why they should be discredited.
This seems to be a pattern with you - you enjoy proclaiming your knowledge or skill relating to various topics. Then when someone offers an opinion or gives you information that doesn’t fit within your view of the way things are or how you think they should be, rather than taking that information on board and trying to learn something, it seems like you feel like you’re being personally attacked, so you instead try to invalidate them and shut them down.
Obviously, it’s your choice to take part in whichever discussions you choose and to block communication with whomever you want. I’m assuming I’m part of this perceived “clique” that you mention you’ll be blocking, and if that’s the case then so be it.
Apologies to everyone for dragging this thread OT.
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Quick event - default 2 laps
Level 8 AI
Expert rules
Stock car
Stock tune
No assists
Can’t believe I let this get to me. Never getting that time back. I probably had to reset at ER-R like 20 times because they cluster so erratically. Atrocious AI. Makes multi feel like jumping through daisies by comparison
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