I got my AWD '65 Mustang time down to 52.0, but that is around my limit with that build/tune., so I’ll try the '65 Pontiac some time. Kudos on managing to make the whacky RWD build work, Jezza. I gave it a try myself when I noticed the PI stopped increasing as I was adding power, so I ended up with 951bhp, I think. But I quickly gave up after trying it out. Maybe Rayne will be able to beat Barcode’s time, which I assume was also set with a high power RWD build.
He has two tunes, which one is best? I tried both. edit - I went quicker using the C Rivals Record one.
Incidentally, they really need to add the Peel Trident to the excluded list, as it’s just stupidly OP for these lower classes.
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Agree entirely. Shows how little focus there is on Rivals, as it’s at least as dominant as the Track Tor was in D and C classes.
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Baffling to me that when they were finally prompted to act on BS and TT, Trident was left in place. My only guess is they felt not enough players run and/or are interested in C and D to warrant removal. I won’t touch the thing. That it is what it is, a fish bowl with wheels, just makes it worse. If it were say, the Ford Pinto, perhaps it wouldn’t bother as much.
It will be because a lot of the complaints about the Boneshaker and Track Tor were based on online races. As C and D don’t form part of ranked, the Peel is only really irritating for those who do Rivals (and then only those who do C and D - which I confess is not usually me!).
I think I will submit a ticket. Never know, if a few of us do it, they might change it. It sounded like it was relatively easy for them to add cars to the “excluded” list.
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I bet it’s because it’s a DLC car they won’t want to upset people who’ve paid money. But it won’t hurt to ask.
Meanwhile I tried to set a good time with the Mustang 65 and the high powered RWD tune but to no avail unfortunately. Given unlimited time and tries, maybe I could, but it’s really hard work. I went a bit quicker in the Pontiac GTO and could probably find another tenth but that’s about it from me.
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That is an excellent point, very astute! 
Great point FN - I’d forgotten that (and adds to our list of OP DLC cars!). I’ll still ask the question anyway - as you say, does no harm.
Yes, the RWD Mustang is a real handful. I think I can lower my time a bit further but it’s tough work. I don’t know how Barcode has run under 50 seconds - from racing his ghost, he seems to have even more speed/acceleration. Has anyone tried the Holden Torana for this yet? There’s a quick time set in that as well.
I just tried the Torana and can consistently set times two tenths slower than my Pontiac GTO so with a better tune, maybe. The fact it’s high up the leaderboard without TCS is hopeful that it might be capable of setting that time with AWD which would be nice. I’ll try some more tunes.
edit - best I can do is get within just over a tenth of my GTO time. With a tune called Power/Grip by Frederick637. Other tunes have more speed but still not enough to match the GTO and its 6.8 rating.
I tried racing the fast Torana ghost to see what magic was being performed but there were no obvious clues, it didn’t look like high powered RWD though unless the driver is exceptionally skilled to control it so well without TCS.
edit 2 - I ended up making a RWD tune of my own and using TCS (shared if anyone wants to try), which allowed me to beat my GTO time. It seemed easier than the other high powered RWD tune I tried on the Mustang 65 but it could just be because I’m getting more used to the course as well.
Current leaderboard midway through the week:
Jezza - 51.335 (65 Mustang) (23rd overall)
Ang3l - 51.685 (65 Pontiac) (27th)
Rex - 51.752 (65 Pontiac) (28th)
Ziperr - 52.077 (65 Mustang) (30th)
Bree - 52.088 (65 Mustang) (32nd)
FN - 52.287 (Torana) (36th)
Dead Crim - 52.319 (77 Pontiac) (37th)
Leetorts - 52.920 (65 Pontiac) (44th)
Wan Ge - 52.986 (65 Mustang) (45th)
Spiko - 53.387 (65 Mustang) (56th)
Thumby - 53.420 (65 Mustang) (57th)
Squryl - 53.754 (77 Pontiac) (63rd)
Dead Zep - 53.787 (70 Camaro) (64th)
Blevin - 54.121 (69 Chevy Nova) (74th)
Hanson - 54.721 (65 Mustang) (100th)
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Updated to reflect Rayne’s time.
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I think I’ve got a little bit of everything shared by now, lol everything is right in that high 53/low 54 range, for me that is. The last were a couple Toranas. Then when I looked at FN’s tune at 700plus HP, lol. Mine aren’t quite there, lol.
I’ll do a few laps with some of them over the next few days and share my times 
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Tried different RWD builds of the '65 Mustang and managed a 50.517 without TCS. Very challenging but also a lot of fun.
If I can make efficient use of the fence inside the first braking zone I could catch Barcode with this build. But it’s extremely difficult to do correctly and this braking zone makes or breaks the whole lap.
With rewinding I shaved off 0.5-0.6 seconds of above time with usage of the fence as additional braking support.
Looks like high powered RWD is the way to go here then. I just improved to 52.1 despite messing up the last corner slightly. I think I’ll leave the advanced fence braking techniques to the elite drivers though 
Mind sharing Rayne? Kudos as always for driving these monsters without TCS! Exceptional skills.
I’ve just ran 51.2 in FullNietzsche’s tuned Torana if anyone wants to try that.
The fence doesn’t regenerate does it, so that must be a one off tactic? I was using the pole to do the same job but that’s a bit tougher to hit!
Sure, will share it once I’m back home from work. Built with the V8-swap because the additional power of the V10 or V12 doesn’t provide any benefit without TCS. Barely drivable and the higher weight resulted in slower times. Don’t know how it compares to the higher-powered engines with TCS though.
The other engines also didn’t allow for such a nifty build. Nearly maxed out engine (twin-turbo), widest rear tires, max rear-aero, sport weight reduction. For some strange reason the street camshaft upgrade decreases PI by quite a margin which makes this possible.
The fence doesn’t regenerate but decreases the braking distance way more than the pole. If you can rewind before breaking the fence it’s fine. If you mess up later in the lap without the possibily to rewind far enough, you have to restart.
Quite a hassle for sure.
Hi boys and girls 
Does anyone knows how to setup (suspension/gearing/differential) highpower RWD car to be keyboard friendly?
Am I right that higher weight will give me better traction?
IMO that is pushing over “tryhard” border. I will try it, because part of me is tryhard, but I don’t like the idea.
Well the “run up” at North City was, to a certain extent, in the same category. But it was easy at least.
PS. I like this feature that I have same account on forum and in game
PS2. Sorry for any grammar/spelling/writing mistakes. It’s been a while since I had to use English recently. Hopefully it is readable.
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I just did a 52.056 to move up two places, at least until some of the other players use the RWD builds. I’d love to get into the 51s.
edit - did a 51.485 this morning.