So this topic is about tires, the race tire in general. I’ve found that most of my cars that I’ve built and tuned have the race tire, but that may soon change. Recently, I made a stock McLaren P1 tune with a stock build (the tires are Sport, based off the look of them compared to buying the tire on another car) and managed to pull a sub 7 minute lap around the 'Ring, albeit dirty, which I blame myself for the tune’s slight twitchiness at speed. When replacing the tires for Race, the tune was unsatisfactory. Granted, I have seen builds with the P1 with the race tire pull off faster laps, but I also have seen the Sport tire do the same. The same applies to my C6 ZR1-Race tire on, not too bad, but not great, Sport tire on, absolutely phenomenal.
So why run the Race Tire at all? Is there some unseen benefit for running it, apart from the +0.04 grip gained?
Some cars need them, some don’t. If you are in the lower classes or if you are keeping the car in its starting class then more often than not race tires are not needed.
But the main lesson to learn is test the various build options.
Makes sense. But how come there aren’t more people running the Sport tire? Is that just for the lower classes that the race tire is unnecessary, or does it apply for all classes, but depends on the car?
Most people need more grip than the top drivers so they tend to run “too much” tyre.
I will expand on what Dust said. Take track specific for example. If running at Le Mans Old there is lots of time to be made up on the straights therefore a well tuned car with high hp and lesser tyres will do well there. But same class at Laguna Seca will probably need tyre upgrades or less weight or both.
But then different cars may need better tyres even at Le Mans. But if you have Craviator skills then you can run on stock tyres a lot more cars and a lot more tracks than other drivers.
So it depends on lots of things.
Pick a car, pick a track, pick a driver and then test the various build options.
An easy car to drive typically means one has too much tire which could be traded in for power/weight.
My preference is to run the minimal tire. If I have trouble with car handling, then I consider moving up on tire grip. As mentioned before, some cars need better tires but some cars do fine with stock tires.
I generally start with to much grip so I can get the car to a general good feeling area… then I start backing off tire widths and adding power until the car is on the edge… Once there go back to fine tuning and see what happens… I rarely run race tire on anything because I’m power hungry lol
I do virtually the same. I always max out the handling on a car that I’ve just built for the first time. As I get more and more comfortable with it, I drop more handling and add more power. I know when I first started playing the game, I had to have race tires on everything because I sucked. As my skills improved, race tires started to get traded for sport, then for street, then even stock on a lot of cars. Now I’m liking drag tires on everything…
You have way more practice driving those missiles than I do. I may have gotten good in some ways, but I am still new to all of this. I can’t just jump in a car that has zero handling and do well in it. I need to build up to it. Its like foreplay…
I tune mostly in s-class and I always start with a full racing platform apart from clutch and prop shaft . Then squeeze power into it looking at weight , then if i need more power I might drop the tire width but I would always leave race tires on if I can there are a few exceptions (cars that have a high pi and can’t put race tires on) but as stated in this thread it depends on class and track in s-class yes unless you can’t . Then i use the clutch and prop to finalise the pi if it’s 1 or 2 away from top and then wheels to get the best from your pi and weight squeezing as much as you can into the pi
In other classes I am not so sure but in s or above defiantly yes
I usually use the race tires for A class and above, and on rare occasion in B class when I’m trying to get max handling out of the car. It is not essential like it was in other Forza’s imo.
I’d argue it’s driver dependent, for example I have two tunes for my B class rx-3, one on sport tires, and another on race tires. The one on race tires is easier to handle, but if you hit the correct racing lines sport tires already have plenty enough grip, there’s no place to take advantage of the 0.04g’s you gain from race tires on most tracks. As a result, the potential from the sport tires is higher (half a second faster on most tracks I tested) but it’s a hand full to handle on a controller, because it requires small adjustments. But the race tires don’t slide out as easy, and you can be more ballsy with the adjustments without throwing the car off the road.
Obviously the results may change based on class, car, and drive type.
