Proper way to shift with manual/clutch?

[THE_CARJACKER13]

Ok so most of us know manual/clutch is the best rpm transmission setting. The way I shift is I go past the red line as much as I can before the car stutters, then shift, to get max rpm. However others have told me that you shift before or right about when you touch the red line, and to never go past it. What’s the proper way to do it?

[One_Refort]

Depends on your car engine and transmission setup. Some engines start falling off the power band after red line while others roughly keep the same. Open the telemetry while driving and watch the hp at different rpm levels. Transmission adjustments also help.

[Dadiodude]

Also, every time you hit the limiter you’re no longer accelerating so try to change just before you hit it.

[Ixoye56]

Depends on your car’s engine torque, shift on the top of the engine torque curve

[uber_understeer]

One Refort knows what he/she is talking about.

[HLR_Juggernaut]

Same question in 2 different forum section? Anyhow, same as I said in the other place

@HLR_Juggernaut

You need to find the “sweet spot” for every engine.

For example, take 5.7l V8 with centrifugal supercharger, you want to shift as late as possible. That engine is “all good” for 4000rpm and up. Thereofre if you are exiting any corner and you have more than 4000rmp you don’t need to downshift to get in to powerband, but the absolute power is from redline to limiter.

For another example I use 1.6l Rally Turbo engine.the engine in wonderful from 4000rpm to 5500rpm and after that is has nothing on it, even thuogh you aren’t even near the 6500rpm redline or 7200rpm limiter. Therefore if you are anywhere else than 4000 to 5500rpm you are losing time.

Now those are the two extremes, and most cars have the “sweet spot” right below redline, some engines like to be shifted so that you never quite get to the redline, some want to be half of the time over the redline. therefore you must test and figure it out by yourself.

to do this open up the telemetry on slightly longer straight (go to LeMans straight if you need to) find where to peak power is, and that is the sweet spot.

Ideally you r car has let’s say 350 hp, yuo want to shift from 325hp to 325hp so when you get to higer gear you land on same power you shifted from. Therefore you never end up on engine operation range where you have less than 325.

Some engines have very broad powerband, therefore long gearing might work fine, (Chevrolet Camaro -02 which is same engine as 5.7l engine swap) some engines are peaky where you need short ratio gearing (Honda Civic type-R -04 which is same engine as 2.0l Engine swap)

[Will_Driver_C]

@HLR_Juggernaut

Same question in 2 different forum section? Anyhow, same as I said in the other place

@HLR_Juggernaut

You need to find the “sweet spot” for every engine.

For example, take 5.7l V8 with centrifugal supercharger, you want to shift as late as possible. That engine is “all good” for 4000rpm and up. Thereofre if you are exiting any corner and you have more than 4000rmp you don’t need to downshift to get in to powerband, but the absolute power is from redline to limiter.

For another example I use 1.6l Rally Turbo engine.the engine in wonderful from 4000rpm to 5500rpm and after that is has nothing on it, even thuogh you aren’t even near the 6500rpm redline or 7200rpm limiter. Therefore if you are anywhere else than 4000 to 5500rpm you are losing time.

Now those are the two extremes, and most cars have the “sweet spot” right below redline, some engines like to be shifted so that you never quite get to the redline, some want to be half of the time over the redline. therefore you must test and figure it out by yourself.

to do this open up the telemetry on slightly longer straight (go to LeMans straight if you need to) find where to peak power is, and that is the sweet spot.

Ideally you r car has let’s say 350 hp, yuo want to shift from 325hp to 325hp so when you get to higer gear you land on same power you shifted from. Therefore you never end up on engine operation range where you have less than 325.

Some engines have very broad powerband, therefore long gearing might work fine, (Chevrolet Camaro -02 which is same engine as 5.7l engine swap) some engines are peaky where you need short ratio gearing (Honda Civic type-R -04 which is same engine as 2.0l Engine swap)

I was thinking about linking to this earlier today in reply to the original OP. A very good explanation. I wish the game would produce the relevant graphs in the tuning section for this. As it stands I might need to do what I saw another in the forums do and produce my own graphs by recording the telemetry. A very slow and time consuming process but interesting all the same.

[THE_CARJACKER13]

@HLR_Juggernaut

Same question in 2 different forum section? Anyhow, same as I said in the other place

@HLR_Juggernaut

You need to find the “sweet spot” for every engine.

For example, take 5.7l V8 with centrifugal supercharger, you want to shift as late as possible. That engine is “all good” for 4000rpm and up. Thereofre if you are exiting any corner and you have more than 4000rmp you don’t need to downshift to get in to powerband, but the absolute power is from redline to limiter.

For another example I use 1.6l Rally Turbo engine.the engine in wonderful from 4000rpm to 5500rpm and after that is has nothing on it, even thuogh you aren’t even near the 6500rpm redline or 7200rpm limiter. Therefore if you are anywhere else than 4000 to 5500rpm you are losing time.

Now those are the two extremes, and most cars have the “sweet spot” right below redline, some engines like to be shifted so that you never quite get to the redline, some want to be half of the time over the redline. therefore you must test and figure it out by yourself.

to do this open up the telemetry on slightly longer straight (go to LeMans straight if you need to) find where to peak power is, and that is the sweet spot.

Ideally you r car has let’s say 350 hp, yuo want to shift from 325hp to 325hp so when you get to higer gear you land on same power you shifted from. Therefore you never end up on engine operation range where you have less than 325.

Some engines have very broad powerband, therefore long gearing might work fine, (Chevrolet Camaro -02 which is same engine as 5.7l engine swap) some engines are peaky where you need short ratio gearing (Honda Civic type-R -04 which is same engine as 2.0l Engine swap)