So I started learning how to tune in this forza. I’ve had some success but mostly failures. I’ve done a lot of research so I understand how components contribute to oversteer/understeer. What I don’t understand is most everybody seems to have a different way of tuning which makes learning very difficult. Question 1: A person recently recommended to tune springs: Weight x percent(front or back) divided by 2. Do any of you experienced tuners recommend this? Question 2: I’ve noticed many people using very high rebound and low bump. What is the benefit of this and how does it affect springs or other components? Question 3: Can you recommend tracks to tune for multiplayer? Handling tracks, speed tracks ext… or should I just tune for a specific track. Question 4: What tracks can use the same tunes? I know I have many questions but any answers you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Q1: Yes. Moneyman 300 showed this, I tried it, & it worked greatly…HOWEVER…it is ONLY for getting a base tune! Don’t be afraid to drop your SPRINGS & SWAY/ROLL BARS way down into the SOFT setting on RWD front engine vehicles. Most of my RWD cars, especially muscle cars, have very soft springs & bars.
Q2: High rebound mkes the wheels/tires respond quicker while recoiling back toward the road after going over a bumb. Lower bumb lets the tires absorb the bumps much easier.
Q3: Personally I use :
Laguna Seca for handling
“The Ring” GP & Indy GP medium speed track.
Spa or Road America for speed ****those are my personal favorites to tune on.
Q4: I use the same tunes for each “class” of track.
***Now, I’m not claiming to be the best tuner out there…but I’m OK…I’m willing to help you with all that I do know.
Now keep in mind that everything I said was JUST a way to get a BASE tune.
After you get your base, you’ll need to take it out on the track & get the “feel” for the car… this is where “tuning by feel” comes into play; like General Swift said.
What I have noticed is that after doing my calculations & running on the track… my springs & sway-bars settings turn out to be MUCH softer than the calculation/ equation & my front & rear settings are either equal -OR- the front is anywhere from 50lbs to 100lbs softer/ lower than the rear.
Just my 2 cents…my cars drive pretty darn good & I’m happy with them.
Understood, Aero probably causes you to run lower spring rate. I’m learning theres about a billion ways to tune a car but I do like this base tune setup. I have also been using: Percent front or rear times 40 to get base ARBs, works very well. Thanks again man
1.If your lazy,will give a better than stock result. but tuning by feel is the best way.
2.Benefit is faster times,better feel/response. Makes little difference to other settings imo.
3.Tune cars where you are most consistant,easier to see lap time differences. I like to use Cat gp,Nur,bathurst.
4.I put tunes in 3 classes… grip/cat,silver,spa,yas,small rd ams,atlanta club,top gear full ect… Speed/sebring,bathurst,le mans,rd america ect… And i do track specific tunes for alps,cat school,and nur.
Thanks Swift, I would love to tune by feel but I’m a bit lost where to start. Also, at the moment I’m about a top 500-1000 driver so my feel isn’t as good as yours. #4 is very helpful to me and a specific tune for alps and cat school makes so much sense. Two tracks I struggle with my tunes. BTW, I have a few of your tunes and am a big fan of your work. Your C1 looked great when sch1wo was testing it, had to pick it up.
This forum has information in it to cover more than just tire settings. You should be able to find how to set every setting both initial and recommended increments of change. Some posts have links to help your search. When you find contradictory information, try both ways and determine which way works best.
It’s like putting on your clothing. You can put on your socks then put on pants or do the opposite. At the end, the car you feel comfortable in is a good tune. One person’s good tune is another’s nightmare.
100% Truth Spoken^^^ I can hold a pretty good race line & my pedal (throttle & brake) control is good as well, however, I’ve downloaded some tunes from some of the Tier 1/ pro level tuners of FM5 & I’m just not comfortable with a lot of the tunes. Some feel perfect, plenty of power, responsive, stable, good grip, little to no wheel spin, etc… I prefer to tune my own cars, simply because it is a big part of the game & I know that whatever success I get on the track means that it has come from my work. I also paint/ design 99% of the cars/trucks I use for the same reason that I do my own tuning.
I typically leave my Aero at the half-way mark when building my base tune & usually my Aero is the last thing I tune…typically only adjusting Aero if my spring & sway bar adjustments aren’t giving me the complete desired effect that I’m looking for.
Onto the equation you mentioned, I don’t fully understand the formula, basically the “Percent” you mentioned. “Percent” of what? Is it percent of displacement? For example:
Your assumption at the end sounds about right. I have heard of people doing it that way, and it is similar to what I’ve done in the past. Afterall, it’s only for a base, I rarely leave my ARBs where the base was after I’ve done a little bit of testing.
You should try out the TMT (three minute tune) I don’t follow the one on here as I have my own but I basically stick a quick tune on, do very similar things in each aspect of the setup as I do with all the cars, it makes the car very driveable on the tracks which you have built it for. Once you select the track you are trying it out on and do 5-10 laps you can then adjust which settings you think to the track ie. high rumble strips requires less stiffness in your springs so on and so forth! I don’t have the patience to always tune track specifically, so I just generally put the quick tune on, go on a track I think has a high end straight but also a few decent corners to go round so I can test different parts of the car, I like to tune on spa and cat but I just build lobby cars for online. I built a Buick which gets top 50s on some tracks, probably my most proud moment of forza 5 and that’s with me driving the damn thing, there are far better drivers out there than me. As I said its not track built though its just for online lobbies. If I had the patience to adjust things ever so slightly for hours on end i would probably have less set ups but better ones but i like to test out my skills against other drivers
