If starting from default I actually disagree with change things one at a time.
Reason is if you go with ARBs of say 10/40 without adjusting bump, springs and diff you will think its unstable. You need the full package.
So develop a base that seems close and then tweak one at a time from there.
I should have clarified.
I always drive the car after I apply upgrades to see what it drives like. Then I decide whether or not to use my base set up. After applying a base set up - tweak only one thing at a time.
Automobile handling
Removed chart, but the above is a link and always has been.
That chart is slightly lacking and I have no doubt that people will make the wrong front tyre choice after reading that.
A few issues with it.
It makes no mention of damping and it makes no mention of corner entry / exit.
It also makes no reference to body roll which may require a different ARB tweak to fix.
Also wide front tyres and therefore better contact patch may not produce the desired results in Forza.
Agree. There are some charts linked around here that seem to directly contradict each other. What do you think of this guide?
http://www.racingonthecheap.com/recommended-reading/carroll-smiths-handling-guide/
I think BigWorm made a post here somewhere that seemed to borrow from this. Or hell, maybe BigWorm is Carrol Smith.
I managed to run a 45.111 on parc circut which put me in 77th place in your charger. Not the best but definitely not the worst tune i used that wasnt mine lol and i have tried quite a bit of the communitys tunes from this site that in all honesty should not even be sourced… with that being said your tune is ok for the average driver to use but if your using it for rivals you might be dissapointed at how you place against the daytona, stradale, and darts in A class. Its an average car with average qualitys so expect average times… Your build is a bit on the heavy side and you may want to take off the race roll cage to help with acceleration. Your tune is pretty good im not gonna lie. but not for me, it has a bit understeer when turning in, i would lower the diffs deccel to 7 and decrease the ARB a bit to help with understeer, try 10 in front and 12 in the back. I dont want go more in detail because id be here for an hour typing this msg as im on my xb1 controller lol sorry and hope this helps you out.
Totally agree with this.
Way too many tunes on here are tuned where the tuner is aiming for stability but they end up being slow and understeery.
People need to learn that stability can be achieved without understeer and turning ability can be achieved without oversteer.
First step in learning is be open to change and do not go nuts at those who have tuned and run quick cars.
Main reason why I have stopped trying to help people and unfortunately it has reeuced my willingness to hgelp those who are open to the help.
Potbox you were asking what some of these things do, try [this link.](http://www.rapid-racer.com/suspension-tuning.php#Damping/ Bump and Rebound) It doesn’t go into too much information but still offers a basic understanding of what each of the tuning components will do.
I don’t know about that camaro - I dd not find it squirrely. In fact, I thought it was pretty stable and planted in the rear and assumed it was AWD the first time I drove it. To each their own.
I like cars that are fast but also easy to drive. I will give your camaro a quick run.
First thoughts running Riverbed Cross Country:
First right hander - TUUUUUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN!!! It does not want to turn in off throttle, it does not want to turn in on max throttle, it does not want to turn in on partial throttle. Perhaps it has something to do with me coming off the straight at 160 mph but… …I’m needing to scrub lots of speed to get it to turn into the corner here which is causing e to fall back on my ghost by several seconds. I found myself having to turn very early and approach the turn at a very sideways angle then braking hard before the jump.
—> What are the differential settings? How stiff are the front springs? How have you set the alignment?
Low speed, wheel turned, on throttle oversteer. This can be attributed to poor throttle input on my part in an effort to catch my ghost.
As I did the race, I was always finding the car to understeer quite a bit and wishing it was more responsive. Still, it ran a 2:13 something (possibly a 2:14) which puts the time between 86 - 142 on the leaderboard.
Squirrality is in the eye of the beholder.
I don’t find the Camaro squirrelly at all. If I did I would stabilise it.
I don’t feel like the cars are on the edge al the time. To me they are quick and stable.
Sim v normal steering may explain it or momentum driving style versus a more stop start style.