Is the Esprit Turbo S2 livery bugged?
car should be a solid color. without the solid chrome essex decal. if its part of the default livery it should be removed like with other cars with a factory decal for example: adding a livery to chevelle will remove the stripes.
Definitely not, that livery was for models that were released far later down the line
Wouldnât that still be incorrect (since Essex Turbos were only painted blue with red/chrome livery and red interior)?
At the time of the original announcement in February 1980, only the Essex corporate colour scheme was available: Monaco blue with a chrome and red stripe kit and scarlet interior.
Extremely expensive, only 45 Essex Turbo Esprits were built, a figure that included several pre-production units. Customer cars totalled around 35 examples while a similar number of additional Turbo Esprits were built to full Essex specification but with a conventional paint finish.
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Found this regarding the Essex turbos.
Guide: Lotus Esprit Turbo Essex Commemorative â Supercar Nostalgia same site different post.
"âŚThe flamboyant Essex colour scheme did not appeal to everyone and only 45 were built (including prototypes).
Around the same number were built to âEssex-specificationâ (with full leather, air-conditioning, Sundym glass and the roof-mounted Panasonic stereo) but in different colours (mostly white, red and fire bronze).
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Thatâs a weird way for PG to make a livery on a model, if thatâs the case.
I personally donât even mind the essex look.
I just wish PG made up their minds. Is this a proper essex (which should be blue with red interior) or essex spec (which shouldnât have essex stripe and should instead have classic âturbo espritâ decals)? Currently it is weirdly neither.
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Didnât realize that when painting cars in the 360 era Forza Motorsport games the stock decals will not disappear. Guess they may have forgot to update the Esprit Turbo S2 to the current gen spec models.
Thatâs prob why the stock essex decal itself wont disappear completely when it comes to doing a custom paint job
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Ok really not happy with the esprit. Practically unpaintable with that permanent essex stripe and lotus logo.
Definitely a bit of a letdown. The essex stripe isnât bad, but I do prefer the simple paintjobs of other Esprit Turbos, so this design choice throws that option out the window. Why couldnât it have been an additional paint group? Not to mention it makes it impossible to recreate the actual essex paintjob, so it effectively kills two birds with one stone.
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yeah love it with the dual stripes.
the turbo and essex decal above the bumper should be removeable too since they are decals just like on the side.
and on side note: they should have made the essex and turbo decals by the badge red for the default white color to match the stripes. just doesnât look good for it to be white on white.
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This is âsomewhatâ annoying.
Chrome stripe doesnât just stay on when painting the body, it canât even be covered with decals.
I find it kinda hard to understand what was so complicated about making this work normally. Make a proper blue default essex look and make all of those decals disappear when changing color. Genuinely bummed out. It will probably be the case of another one of those ârisky fixâ issues.
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Apply custom paint to some cars and we lose the decals (eg, SVJ) and some like this Esprit, we donât.
Come on Forza, some consistency please.
Make it an option to keep the standard car decals or not.
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This issue is new-to-Forza in Horizon 5, where the 1980 Esprit returned after a 12 year hiatus. In Forza Horizon 5, this Lotus Esprit Turbo is supposed to be an Essex trim model, meaning it would only be available in a deep blue metallic colour with red and chrome Essex Petroleum decals. But for some reason, its Motorsport 4 colours were carried over, and the blue is nowhere to be found.
At this point, a better decision wouldâve been to port over the Motorsport 4 model with no changes to its visuals, but instead making it a 1982-1988 model year car, as it has the correct visuals. But you canât change that thanks to âlicensingâ.
Technically, PG doesnât have to change model year to replace/add other decals.
As this Essex/Essex spec production registry shows, there were a few Turbo Esprit cars produced in year 1980 with âturbo espritâ decals and other colors. A few of these are bond cars but at least a couple were customer cars.
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Additionally the way how the stripes are handled when it comes to painting is bad. If you apply anything else than the two standard colours the whole area turns to bare aluminium. It should be possible to paint the stripes and the background separately as two additional layers.
That you canât apply vinyls over the area and canât get rid of the âEssexâ writing is also quite bad and makes it impossible to really create a proper design (livery) for it.
If possible these issues should also be addressed in a future update.
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I should make this a separate report.
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Weâll presumably at best get a âwill not fixâ message in half a year or so anyway. 
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Because if you do not then it will be closed because there are two issues mixed⌠
You should know that you are not allowed to do such things!
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Want to tell us how it works here? Trust me I know more about it than you. 
https://forums.forza.net/search?q=%23troubleshooting%3Afh-troubleshooting%20%40PlageBLN
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I am so sorry!
I just wanted to help. 
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