Let's discuss the "Pokéforza" policy (exclusive cars and emphasis on collecting them)

[NightDriver7800]

@CW40

@NightDriver7800

@CW40

You paid for the original game NOT any additional free content (unless you’re psychic and knew everything that would be added after a year). So you DID get what you paid for as did I. Second you bought the game knowing full well there are challenges to unlock cars. They’ve always done it this way. It’s nothing new so that’s on you if you bought a game that doesn’t suit your needs. The time it takes you to get mad over the game, you could be racing and unlocking the cars you’re whining about. If you don’t like a game with challenges and having to actually race maybe try a different genre or get a game where everything is handed to you instantly (which is the most boring thing ever because then there isn’t really a reason to accomplish anything.)

Firstly, Forza Horizon 4 is not an F2P game (yet). This “everything you get past the base game is a bonus” shouldn’t apply here.

From memory, the first few seasonal championships (emphasis on seasonal) didn’t unlock exclusive cars. So the game did not ship with such a feature. In fact, neither did it ship with the Playlist, nor timed challenges apart from Forzathon, which gave you some room to earn points however you wanted, especially at the beginning when the prices were low.

Most of us complain about one-time rewards locked behind timed events, really, as we’re skilled enough to earn the cars on our terms. I have completed everything that’s possible to unlock in this game save for Ranked Online which I’m not interested in and isn’t even tied to completion. I own all of the exclusive cars. But, when appealing to the broadest possible demographic, Playground need to take into account their fanbase is not just kids and teenagers, there are adults in there, people who must cope with the demands of adulthood. Even in the future with xCloud available we won’t be able to run Forza Horizon at any time we want in order to complete these challenges, and we don’t become any more special in real life for completing these challenges.

Speaking of “special” things, that’s precisely the issue: the concept that you need some kind of “special effort” in order to get certain cars. It’s not enough to complete challenges anymore, it has to feel “special”. Almost a mirror of Facebook: not content with travelling you have to post the photos to “remember”. Thing is, the fact these challenges are timed does not make them any more special, because they’re as much a chore as the grindy challenges racing games began to have starting with Gran Turismo. All they do is put pressure on the players and prevent them from enjoying the other content Microsoft has to offer, since the biggest lie told this generation is that the Xbox has no games.

The fact some cars have been repeating too often is a sign the team might agree with having moved too far in one direction but is unwilling to go back on what they added to the game since it’s too late now. You don’t just remove the Playlist altogether and, as a calendar of sorts, it isn’t even desirable to do that.

So basically you’re complaining that you paid money for a game but are too busy to even spend a few hours a week on it. You see how crazy that sounds right? If life is too busy to play games then you obviously should NOT be wasting your money on them. You can’t blame PG because you make bad life decisions. That’s beyond insane.

If I’m insane, you have either selective or just plain bad comprehension.

What I’m saying is, I want to do whatever I feel like in the game, with no pressure. I don’t want to be unchallenged, I just don’t want a deadline. Real life is already full of deadlines for me. And I don’t want to be held hostage by scammers in the AH if I happen to miss this deadline.

As FM7 demonstrated, Playground loses nothing by making these cars readily available at any time, either through the Autoshow or via permanent challenges. Yet they chose to go the other route. Everything T10 did to regain our trust last year, Playground is doing the opposite of this year, which shows a clear rift in how both studios are handling the franchise. Playground answers on behalf of Forza as much as T10 right now.

As my hundreds of hours in FH4 can attest, I have more than enough time to play the game. But I want to do it on my own terms. Playground seem to have a different idea, though, which contrasts with the motto from when the game was first released, that we’d be able to play “our way”. The Playlist is so stringent, it even motivated GTPlanet to write an article in criticism of it when it came out.

Others like Ubisoft are doing this timed nonsense as well, but Ubisoft (and EA) are hardly an example to be followed when it comes to business practices, right? Like I said before, first they take 1, 2 hours. When you realize, it’s six. Twelve. Twenty-four. Two, three days.

Finally, focusing exclusively on time probably helps you divert attention from the other obvious issues that arise with locked cars, which were already brought up twice in this thread, doesn’t it? IMO Playground shouldn’t even attempt a unicorn system if they’re having trouble creating a healthy economical system for the game, but business has other demands.