Can someone please explain to me the fascination with driving sideways? Dont get me wrong, Im not against drifting. I dont know how or if you have to set up your car a certain way. Does it help ith lower times at all? I’ve watched a few Twitch streams and I admit that I just dont get it. I’m also curious as to how the drifting phenomenon started. I’ll probably never be a good drifter but would be interested in a little history on how it became “a thing”. The biggest downside for me at least while I was watching the streams is that the constant squeeling from the tires and rapidly flashing the camera backwards became annoying to me quite fast. Maybe that’ll change if I actually knew how to drift. So… anyone wanna teach me?
Well to the first question of whats it all about and the why its popular to us is the fact of skill. The skill to go into corners fast and able to control the counter steer while the car is sideways without hitting the wall or another car. Its enjoyable. Its a skill that everyone can do. I mean people would be more then glad to teach you. I myself am still learning everytime I drift and I have been doing it for about a year and a half. And to the history you can just Google it for a better answer.
I have a few tips for you on drifting in horizon 2,
1.) You need to eliminate as much over steer as possible. (under steer allows forward bite while sideways)
2.) Rally suspension over racing suspension, this is because it gives better control while losing grip, better steering angle, etc. Also, stiffen the front springs a lot more then the rear, i usually lower the spring in the rear to like 10-15 lbs from the softest setting and stiffen the front all the way. Also keep your vehicle level with the ride height. Having a soft rear suspension will lift the front of the car while drifting, so the extra height you add in the front will just unbalance the car.
3.) Don’t slam your vehicle, it may look cool but hinders the ability of the vehicle.
4.) Anti roll bars: Front very stiff and the rear around 4.0-5.0
5.) Learn to stay on the gas 99% of the time. The large majority of spins in drifting are due do letting off the throttle. Instead, drop it to 3/4 or half throttle but never let off.
6.) Negative camber in the front tires. Now heres where i will lose most people. They assume cars in this game act like they do in real life. Sadly they dont, So running 7 caster angle is out of the question. keep it between 1.0 and 2.0, this way your vehicle will have control while it is sideways.
7.) Tire pressure is probably the most important aspect of drifting. I use the telemetry to make my from wheels between 31.0 and 31.5 while actively drifting. Anything higher will cause snap over steer while transitioning into a corner. As for the rear, anywhere in the range of 27.0-28.0 while warmed up. This will give buckets of forward grip, allowing you to hold more angle for a longer distance.
8.) Bump stiffness needs to be the same, regardless of the rebound stiffness. Usually you want to promote oversteer by having a stiff front rebound stiffness and slightly less rear rebound stiffness( usually like a 1.0-2.0 difference.)
9.) Completely locked differential.
10.) I prefer the forza wing on all of my cars, since it allows the suspension to contract more in the rear, giving more forward grip once again.
Hopefully this helps you out, enjoy being sideways!
Your tips may not be the best, some are fine but most of them are very very hit and miss and things I personally would not follow & I’ve been doing this since Forza 2.
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Forza horizon is drastically different from any other forza title and to think otherwise is just wrong. I can pull better angle and hold it better than anyone I’ve come across on this game so I know what im talking about
If you doubt me drive my 2015 wrx Sti search my tag in the description while searching for tunes, also the 70’s Chevy Camaro z28. Sure everyone has different tunes, but this works for me.
Good lord, it’s like the old DL all over again.
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So the things that you listed only work with you.
But I’ll try your tune and see if it’s really as good as you think.
Edit: Your Subaru tune is literally just a fully upgraded car, 868hp/773lb-ft that’s pretty ridiculous. Drifting a stock RWD converted Subaru feels better.
There is a thing called throttle control, its a wonderful thing in drifting. Look it up, it may help you do better in a car with power. This is the reason i don’t post in these forums, people cling onto one persons tuning and call it the best. And using a car for less than two minutes hardly justifies the tuning of a car. Actually use it and see how it controls before you bash someone.
Edit: I’m referring to Horizon 2 specifically maybe you guys missed that. Mashing the gas and pulling hardly any angle is not drifting, it is just power sliding. keep that in mind
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Sorry for hurting your feelings, but I’ve most likely been drifting on Forza for much longer than you have even been playing on it. Over the years I’ve adjusted to more than 100 other peoples tunes through Forza 2/3/4/5/H2. I’ve gave advice and tips, I’ve gave my view on their tune. As you said yourself “Sure everyone has different tunes, but this works for me.” I’m glad it works for you, I really am.
You invited me to try your tune, I did and it doesn’t take long for me to get used to your tune which I did and I did not like it. Simple as that and then I gave my feedback saying that I think a standard RWD converted 15’ WRX feels better than your tune which it does. So if you cannot take my view on your tune then don’t ask me to try it.
I’m also glad you’re watching videos on types of drifting and driving, it’s good to see that you’re using your resources. As for linking the video to me there was no need for it as I learn’t that within 2 weeks of playing Forza for my first time.
Also you mention having a 2.0 caster instead of 7.0 because you can maintain more control throughout a drift, incorrect. I can maintain a perfect steady drift with 7.0 Caster the only thing the 2.0 is doing is helping you transition slower/smoother instead or a quick and just as smooth transition.
Anyway I will be leaving this here, want to carry on talking? Send me a private message.
Show off is in the same team as me and he is a pretty damn good drifter and just drifting with him could help out a newbie, just fallow someone that’s good and imitate their driving and then adapt it to your own style
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You do realize horizon 2 has been out less than a year? im not talking about forza in general im talking about HORIZON 2. i dont care if you have drifted on forza titles before this it has nothing to do with tuning on horizon 2. goodbye
FH2 is too easy to drift. You can take a stock car and a little tune setup and drift it. Just hope FM6 is good so that it can expose and separate the good from the bad. Game is starting to get in people’s head. I seen in your previous post about people with no angle. You can get angle and go fast. You have to know how to tune. Now I do agree a little that some parts of drifting is turning into a drag race.
At the end of the day this game is just for casuals and showcases people that are not good at drifting to be good at this game. Link below proves my point.
I totally agree, since drifting is so easy on here you can make yourself stand out by holding more angle. From what I make out in these forums if the back tires kick out at all they call it a day and claim their drifting. But in my eyes the more sideways you are the better the drift. speed is a very minor factor when it comes to drifting.
From that I can tell you come from a points drifting back ground, there is nothing wrong with that but I can just tell. Speed without angle is just as bad as angle without speed so no speed isn’t some minor thing when it comes to drifting it’s one of the most important things. In real competition if you don’t have both you’re not going to win and we try and simulate that so both are needed equally.
To the OP drifting is the figure skating of the motorsport world and doesn’t really serve a purpose on a race track, well not the way we do it anyway. As stated it’s popular because of the skill level/car control required to do it and it just looks and is very very fun. It’s roots stem from just people all over the globe hooning around in cars but the Japanese took it to another level hooning and a man named Keiichi Tsuchiya really brought it to the lime light because in proper races he would be so far ahead of the competition that he was actually able to just drift the car around for some fun and it just took off from there.
My advice is to just practice because yes there are plenty of people in the community that can teach you how to drift but it’s always best to just have your own style and your own tunes, yea it’s going to be frustrating and there is going to be a lot of trail and error but when you get it and it’s all you there is no better feeling just like in real life.
Hope you give it a honest chance cause we could use more people around the drift scene. Happy hunting
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So I guess drifting in real life is too easy with how many people who are looking to start drifting are told to buy a 240, or AE86, and really just weld the rear diff…
To get this thread back on track, and help the person in the OP understand drifting, as stated earlier, it’s about skill, and the thrill of trying to keep something that is so ready to go out of control, in control, and not spin out, or hit the wall, or hit the other car/s tandeming with you. Also, for me, I’m just a manchild, and love the constant tire smoke, screaming engines, and basically doing one giant burn out.
As for history, you had the old F1 cars, but they were really just powersliding through corners because of the narrow tires. Drifting started in Japan, and was mad popular by Keiichi Tsuchiya, aka the Drift King, who practiced on the mountain roads. I remember reading somewhere about him falling behind in a race, so he decided to just start drifting every corner. This was the start of the big drift movement in Japan. Eventually videos started making their way to America, where people who owned 240s, Supras, 86s and other RWD cars were like, Hey, we have those cars, and this looks awesome. We should try this!
My question is do you have the answer to that question because I already know the solution.
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Lol what is the Showoffalot kid talking about? Can’t tell if he’s being serious or trolling.
Drifting has been around since the beginning of cars. Back in the day when they couldn’t handle for crap the drivers would drift around the corner (some call it power sliding but if you think about it power sliding is a type of drifting but not vise versa.) The Japanese popularized it starting with (as many have mentioned) Keiichi Tsuchiya (known as the drift king) he drifted all the corners during a mountain racing event and won. A majority of people saw it as a sacrilegious kind of thing and actually disliked him for it. However there were a few people who saw the style and saw it’s potential as a motor sport. He then formed D1GP with a few other people and was one of the Judges for it. As time progressed drifting became popular everywhere around the world. Competitions such as Formula Drift USA, Formula Drift Asia, D1NZ, Drift Allstars, and many more started to pop up. More and more time passed and vehicle technology began to grow. Newer and better cars were beginning to be used and bigger and more powerful motors started to appear. Keiichi Tsuchiya did not like the direction the drift scene was heading. He saw that as more power was added, less skill was needed, and he decided to quit D1GP to make his own competition, called Drift Muscle, where lightly modified cars were used and power was greatly restricted. Though it’s not talked about as much, many of the drift following has agreed with him and Drift Muscle has grown to be a popular event with drivers like Daigo Saito and Kawabata taking part in the competition.