I was racing in a modern supercar exhibition yesterday in a Horizon Edition Lamborghini Huracan, and a Drivatar was using the Midnight Battle Lamborghini (I’ve beaten it already), which has a Performance Index of S2 995. (Even said it in game too.) He completely destroyed the other Drivatars with his superior horsepower and torque numbers and managed to keep up with me after I overtook him. Is this supposed to happen, in which case, what did I do, and if not, how to avoid it. (And what’s with the crazy fast Razors in the Buggy class?)
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I was running a C class retro muscle race in surfers paradise and the midnight battle Buick GNX showed up with its S2 class PI. how well do you think that played out for the rest of us in c class?
That must have sucked big time, I’m now afraid to go into races near these battles with anything less than an S1 car or higher.
Generally, the AI chooses cars with a PI similar to yours.
Generally.
More often than not I’m finding recently that while it’s largely balanced, there’s always a car or two that has a significantly higher PI than mine. I run my cars stock, and when I was using the 458 Italia, PI 849, I was getting matched up with Huracans, PI 891. A 42 PI difference. That’s not breaking the class, but when they have the excellent launch and start in first, second, etc. and I’m in 8th, with a significantly worse performing car, you can see where the problem lies. While you can pass most people, it didn’t help that the drivatars of the Huracans were in my lineup, and happen to be quite fast friends. Another fun time: Running the stock Z4 GTE with FXX Ks and Ultima 1020s.
Horizon 2 felt much more balanced in this regard.
So with my case, they didn’t necessarily disregard the PI, but they sure used the “give or take” honors system liberally.
Just done a race “Holden vs ford” and the second place car was on my bumper the whole time…in the end I see it was an S1 836 mustang in an A class race
The Ultima 1020 and FXX K blow most upgraded GT3 cars away as well, and I don’t always run my cars stock, but the Razor in buggy class is a pain to deal with though. At least you didn’t wind in the same situation as markvii1 did, that sounded completely unfair.
The RX7 can do this too. Just checked it on the Switchback Trail race in a stock Honda S2000 (The S2000 has PI of 620 B class vs the RX7’s 808 S1 class). Can anyone get the M3 to spawn in as well?
its not just this but the AI also don’t obey PI law neither just do anything goes in S2 and your see many cars that cant be upgraded that high but in use by the AI anyway such as the warthog
I had this happen once in a blueprint championship where I was in a B class car and one Drivatar got an S1 car.
This for me last night too. My own often run 10 event blueprint championship (running anything goes) and I had a B700 Sierra and one Drivatar was a S1 845. Everyone else played B fair! This is the only time it’s happened in all my BP championships though.
M3 can spawn in as well.
just use blueprint! There is a custom feature to allow ONLY the cars you want, and the class of them
While it’s even easier to just pick a different championship class they can’t play in, I was trying to get them to spawn for the most part after I saw the Lamborghini.
Had a 998 track toy (forget which) go against my 953 Jaguar HE once. I’ve also seen a B615 car go against my C600 Dino. Something is definitely not right in the PI matching.
Try doing an all Ford race on Pro settings and watch a Ford Focus keep up and pass a Ford GT HE 2017 Edition sitting at 998
I’ve seen a S1 in a A race too. And at that point you will keep having that S1 car as long as you keep doing A races. In that case, just change difficulty and switch back so the driveatars get re-downloaded and synced.
I’ve already reported this to T10.
It’s happened to me multiple times.
The funniest was in a D class mini race, two drivatars were running S1 mini coopers. They were around 7 seconds a lap faster than me and more than 10 seconds faster than the AI.
I did beat one S1 drivatar in a C class championship though. Apparently the other drivatars gave the S1 drivatar a hard time and the s1 drivatar finished poorly and I won the race and championship by a couple points.
I want to replicate the bug with S1 Mini coopers, what were the championship settings?
I have a screenshot showing the AI running a S1 897 warthog.
That’s literally an impossible build. All you can do with that thing is drivetrain swap it but that lowers pi. If you leave it awd you can barely get over PI 800.
AI dont use builds. They use what i call scaled performance.
Them using impossible builds is not an issue. Them running S1 in say a B class race is.
EDIT: Part of the reason for them not using “builds” like we do is to allow options to fill the grid when we take a certain championship car and max it out. The game is designed to upscale all cars within that championship.