Forza Horizon doesn't value the player's time; many don't have any desire to play anymore

[FlashyClamp5213]

@phillkillv2

…we just want to hop in a car and drive it.

You can have almost everything you’d like in game from eBay… if you wouldn’t mind tipping a bit.

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@talby71

" why do we have to play the game to get ingame rewards"

Players are here to play the game not get played by the game.

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@Tilo38

Opening buying for real money the cars while some others will spend hours of game to get same, is simply pay to win.

The opportunity is always there… on regardless, with the only difference being who’ll take the money.

Money can’t make everything possible, but there are indeed a lot of things money can make possible.

@Tilo38

Concerning the need to achieve some activities to get access to some cars etc, I consider it being like the eternal system of every games with levels, reach level 1, you got simple gun, level 2 rifle, level 3, automatic etc.

But have you considered why it has to be like this way?

@Tilo38

Having all the cars from start would be, for me, like being able to do final level at game start …

How is this unacceptable?.. (and seriously, this is exactly the experience some players might expect)

@Tilo38

Went to Discord few times, either I am not using it correctly or this thing is just a revamped IRC where no one can discuss something seriously. But it would explain why we get non sense updates like the one leading to rolling, landing on 4 wheels and having the car position reset. The non sense, to be polite, of this update is like matching with the quality of discussion one can have on discord from what I experienced.

Post-HTML5 veneering… one of those brilliant follies.

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@AquaPainter168

On the other hand, I ‘don’t’ want to be given the cars, and I ‘do’ want to do the seasonal events for them. I just like ‘games’ to actually be ‘games’. Give me the cars without doing anything, and I will not know what to do with those cars.

It’s up to the player to decide how the game is meant to be played.

If you enjoy the process, so be it.

But there are certainly players who would just prefer things be delivered without any “challenge”.

That’s where the mechanism should be improved, to cater more players’ likes.

@AquaPainter168

I don’t actually know where you are coming up with something to do with the cars? what do you do, just drive around in them? How is that fun?

@AquaPainter168

Have you never heard of a race? It’s a competition where you try to finish 1st instead of just driving around aimlessly in a car.

Driving itself could be part of the core of a car game.

Like how I failed to understand how “The Eliminator” is fun…

@FlashyClamp5213

We enjoy the game differently.

You don’t seem to understand the leisure… regardless, I don’t seem to quite understand your desire for competition neither.

@AquaPainter168

I think that the seasonal events are better than having nothing to play for.

The point is not on the seasonal events themselves, but the fact that the game forced players to play them (by locking exclusive content behind).

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@El_Barto_inc

I play MMO’s and I wouldn’t even try to compare how much time you have to spend there to get anything, in comparison to FH4. Or any other game, as you have to play it, to get something.

So… Does such design make your gaming experience better?

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@Clutch Nixon177

We could also go back to the old Forza Horizon schedule of releasing a DLC car pack every month. Which is pretty boring and outmoded. Dunno, you guys are really that keen on spending real money … ? I dunno sounds odd to me.

Personally I prefer this option over grinding.

But sincerely I would like every car just available in the Autoshow, and the whole Cr. mechanism became completely cosmetic (which can go negative, and has no effect on the purchasing).

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@breeminator

But I only do that when I want to do it…

@toon68

I have given up trying to qualify! Too boring! A waste of money! Why can`t you just race?!!

Coercing the way it’s meant to be played seems unlikely a good choice.

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@Tilo38

Hope you know people buying cars from black market have high chances for permanent ban of profile AND devices.

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AS of now, for me, loosing several hundreds hours of game progress for a simple sync failed is more critical than having to do few stunts/solo races to get some cars.

The only way to make things sure for you is making sure that you are knowledgeable enough for the situation.

@Tilo38

Btw, FH5 will be certainly worse on this aspect, if FH4 trend confirms, it could as well be a big Eliminator,(random dropped cars/tunes) , playground games, clothes, stuff, dances and … that’s it. May be a creator mode to share some private races. So, not only we won’t have all cars at the beginning but it could end that only luck will allow someone to drive what he expects.

Failing to realize the core of the game… such a mistake can be deadly.

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@talby71

(assumed context)

@FlashyClamp5213

@talby71

" why do we have to play the game to get ingame rewards"

Players are here to play the game not get played by the game.

in your own opinion

and you dont speak for everyone else or represent everyone else

not EVERYONE wants to play the same way YOU do

There’s no problem if one just prefers playing the game in a different way (even just prefers to be played by the game, as an extreme case), as I’ve stated:

@FlashyClamp5213

It’s up to the player to decide how the game is meant to be played.

But do realize the key difference between mutual agreement and unilateral demand.

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@Boxxout

Personally I don’t understand why would anyone defend time gated content in a AAA full priced racing game. It’s extremely anti consumer and kills the game longevity. What you think is gonna happen when support is over? 200 cars you can’t get anymore, that’s what.

So a pirate copy of the game could deliver better experience than a genuine copy could then… quite funny.

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