Hello,
KOO Mode consists in Kicking Opponent Outside of the Arena just before the final showdown
At this Stage of the race, life expectancy outside of the arena is less than 5 seconds as long as your Timeout Meter is empty
If an inprudent opponent is waiting close to the border, you know what you have to do…
In my opinion, even if this move is really a bastard thing, I think it’s perfectly regular, efficient and fine. (There is no rule except winning)
There is not a concensus, some people (like me) consider that it is regular and absolutely fun, some others considers that it’s very bad and should be forbidden
Please find attached a compilation of KOO action ( Classic series and special edition) KOO Mode activated
I’ve never encountered this. I wonder if this falls under unsportsman like conduct that could get anyone doing it banned? Probably hard to police as you would need to be noting down gamertags before the ramming took place. I know I would be furious if anyone did it to me.
Unsportsmanlike Conduct
This category covers in-game conduct, especially in races. Going out of your way to intentionally cause wrecking in multiplayer races goes against the spirit of the game and can result in enforcement action. While the occasional drift tap or nudge is unavoidable, reckless or malicious driving can warrant enforcement action. This is enforced much more strictly in the Forza Motorsport series but is enforceable in any Forza title.
It’s easy to capture the past 30 seconds of gameplay on the Series X. If someone does it to me, they are getting reported.
If the other driver is dumb enough to just sit at the border, they don’t know how to play. Have your car further in, start driving shortly before zero. If you both cross the border at the same time, you have advantage in that you already have built up some speed and momentum. No need to relying on unsportsmanlike tactics.
for me it’s very fun. i do this all the time when i had a chance. once i’m in a lv5 focus and push a lv9 focus out of the zone and he got eliminated i was laughing so hard and i end up won that eliminator match too. there are no rules in battle royale you do whatever you can to win.
Although I personally don’t care, I must admit I’m surprised a mod is allowing this thread to remain open because it’s showcasing toxic behavior in game. It’s equivalent to someone posting a highlights reel of ramming. Anyway you will instantly know where this idea is a dooshy thing to do or not based on whether you get PMed instantly in game with some colourful language.
So far the only people on this thread who think that KOO is acceptable behavior for Eliminator are both brand new players who have been driving in Forza for less than two months.
Drivers who engage in behavior like this is one of the reasons a lot of people do not like to do Eliminator. The other behavior that really keeps people from playing Eliminator include people who ram H2H racers when the rammer isn’t in the H2H. Of course the obvious cheaters (people who cannot be challenged, have speed boosts, etc.) are even worse.
My guess is that the 2 proponents of this have not had it happen to them regularly…fairly sure they wouldn’t find it so fun if they were on the receiving end. Personally, I haven’t experienced this as I don’t often do Eliminator…and I certainly wouldn’t do it to someone else myself
The problem with things like this is the people who do ram people out of the arena will then likely go into online racing and do the exact same thing…at a guess, the aforementioned 2 proponents of this would likely also find ramming in online racing absolutely fine, regular and fun
Its ramming in online play and not part of the eliminator, nothing in the rules to say you can’t do it, and nothing in the rules to say you can, but can be seen as unsportsmanlike behaviour its all down to online play etiquette, you forget that and it then becomes a free for all where anyone can do anything just to win or spoil someone else’s enjoyment.
Dear all, I believe that it will be an eternel debat.
Let me advocate my view
The Eliminator is a battle royale, you win if you are the last survivor. There are no rule or gentleman code of conduct.
Racing rules are different in Nascar or in F1… In NASCAR, bump and run, slide job and rubbing are allowed while that will be a scandal in F1. I believe that the eliminator rules are fully permissive.
Is it unsportmanlike conduct to challenge LVL1 with LVL10 cars? To trap people heading for the wrong direction? To have a better knowledge of the Map and use shortcut? To challenge static car? To block opponent be fore the end Line… These are also dirty tactics that are the spirit of Eliminator mode.
I do not want that the eliminator becomes a Monotype Drag Race just to be fair
KOO mode, Ramming or rubbing,slide job, traps, block… are fair in Eliminator mode in my opinion.
I will not use it in online racing of course (the shadow mode prevent some excess).
I think KOO mode is fun for the winner only as being eliminated is never fun.
The notion of fun can be challenged but it’ also a question of pedagogy. Real eliminator racers know that is useless to wait the final race close to the border
Finally, KOO Mode or Ramming in Eliminator have nothing to do with Cheating that is illegal and conducts to be banned.
You asked for people opinion and go it and the consensus appears to be what you are doing is unsportsmanlike, if you don’t like people having a different opinion to you simple answer is to not ask them.
And I’ll pass on the invite to the arena from you thanks, I like to play with people who play fair.
We will find out if it is sportsmanlike conduct for the game mode the first time you ram someone like me out and they report you. Maybe you would change your opinion after seven days of no FH5.
As a regular player of Eliminator, I don’t mind losing. I absolutely hate it when people like you ruin the game for others in ways that are totally unnecessary.
I’ve seen your KOO YT video. Most of the time you are in a L9 or L10 car pushing L6 or L7 cars out. I’d have more respect for your wins if you showed some strategy and realized that if they are at a standstill at the edge and in a slower vehicle, you could beat them just as easily aif you started back 100 yards and had a running start and hit the edge when the countdown hits zero.
“I think KOO mode is fun for the winner only as being eliminated is never fun.”
If I get eliminated by someone who displays superior skill in beating me, then I would still find it fun as I know I was beaten by the better person and I find racing fun. Being eliminated because someone shoved me out of the circle would not be fun purely because the person effectively eliminating me showed zero skill in eliminating me…but then I play the game because I enjoy racing, not because I have to win everything at all costs
Players that go outside the circle (involuntarily or not) at the end when it’s stopped shrinking, between “no more head-to-heads” and the “final showdown,” will only last approximately 5 seconds regardless of how full their health bar is; this was a fix from H4 when players would give themselves a big, fat head start by using a full health bar to absorb damage and get ahead. Knocking an unsuspecting or carless or ignorant tier 9 or 10 car out of bounds at the end w almost no time to recover could be pivotal just a handful of players left.
Is it trashy? Yes. Unsportsmanlike? No. The event is called Eliminator, not Mind Your Manners. Would it be fun to lose this way? Of course not, but like everything else in life, you live and learn…in this case, you’d learn never to camp at the edge like that ever again.
Maybe in FH4, as seen in OPs YT video the timeout is a couple seconds, but in FH5 the timeout of the final zone is almost 20 seconds easily, unless they changed it in the last 2 weeks.
I know this because everytime I make it to the final race, I abused this fact and went out into zone for the last 3 seconds of the countdown before the final race and it used up maybe one tenth to one eighth of my timeout bar.
And yes it is unsportsmanlike, the game is called eliminator and you are supposed to eliminate players by beating them in a point to point races, not by ramming them into zone at the end.