Crash - game crashes when changing tunes between races (1581306)

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Wanted to make a tune for my RS500 and escort cosworth. cahnge some spring rates etc.
Game crashes immediatly when clicking on tuning.
Happens in garage, career menu and during practice lap.
Problem is new since the hotfix on 24th of october. changing grapgics doesnt matter for the crash

hotfix didn’t fix anything…actually made it worse!
When upgrading, car game still stuck to infite loading screen and saving career progress. And G25 steering wheel settings aren’t saved either.

It is getting really annoying as it doesn’t only crash but takes ages to load up again with optimizing shaders

Runnig cpu amd 7 7700x
gpu 7900xtx

Platform: windows 11 pc
Edition: premium edition
Account: solo
PC GPU: 7900xtx 23.10.2 date:16-10-2023
Settings: does not make any diffrence but everything maxxed out on 2k

Attempted fixes: reboot, game fix, changing graphics
Content Update: since last update (hotfix) 24th october

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Same issue crashes and has to reload shaders SUUUUUUPER lame and this is me giving it a second chance ive allready uninstalled once and literally 5 minutes into it game is broken at first i couldn’t get over the dash with none of gauges actually working now i cant even tune the thing.

Tryed selling the car and buying a new one same issue

Trying different cars some work but
the old sedan searies second one down first race none of thoes cars let me tune it just crashes the game

Wasted hours now optimizing shaders from crashes so dumb

Game is so broke and people like super gt straight up ignoring it makes me so mad

Intel 10700
Amd 7900xtx

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reinstalled the game, still has the problem. When chosing the acura #36 it does let me go to tuning. When chosing BRM#14 it also crashes. Same crashes for the Ford Cosworth’s
So it could mostly be car related or upgrade related? The cosworths are upgraded and the acura not. But then again the BRM isn’t upgraded by me either…

made a list of cars i have in my garage that work in garage. That it works in garage doesn’t mean it works on a practice run or during career…It can still crash in any scenario

list working cars:
acura #36
aston martin vantage 2019
aston martin vantage v600 1998
audi #44 r8
bmw m4 2021
bmw 2003 m5
chevrolet corvette stingray coupe 2020
chevrolet corvette stingray coupe FE 2020
chevrolet camaro ZL1 2018 FE
Dodge #19 challenger TA
Dodge viper GTS 2013
Ferrari FXX K
Ford mustang 2018 GT
Ford GT 2017
Ford #17

not working:
brm #14
dodge challenger SRT Demon
Ford mustang cobra svt 1991
Ford Escort Cosworth
Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
Ford Mustang Boss 302

Will add more on the list. i am done with the crashes to figure out for now

4

Its not the cars. You used the non working in career?

Follow the stuff here and delete the autosaved tunes on the cars

But u can’t tune them if u have the car active in career or it creates new autosaved tune.

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5 crashes while existing tuning in 3 hours.

PC Steam
13900, 4090

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tried this out, saved the tune and deleted the autosave. The BMW 2003 only works in career and cars menu (like before). The Ford rs500 and escort still crashes in any situation clicking on tune.
Not all those cars in the list are used as career cars and those also crash…

So doesn’t seem theproblem is in the autosave

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You have to get rid of the tune. It automatically creates one

Was buying lots of fords after reading your post here yesterday. Never used one but they have the tune.

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But yeah without patch it’s useless whenever u touch tuning/upgrade again it creates new autosave

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made a video the BMW randomly works but the ford just doesnt any where…
No matter if you delete tunes or not
Forza motorsport crash - YouTube Watch till the end.

9

Looks different what was the amd thingy saying? Looks more like timeout… Can you look in amd software for issue detection or timeout detection and turn off

I can see the car in last frame before the black and it shouldn’t crash in the tuning section

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Maybe clear shadercache or this
https://forums.forza.net/t/about-shader-optimization/643123/3?u=pinkiepie4997

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Yeah i’ve posted it via registry but amd added own stuff

Found picture but no idea wich version it started and so on

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Here is some extra registry stuff for timeout-detection and multiplane-overlay

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\GraphicsDrivers]
"TdrDdiDelay"=dword:00000014
"TdrDelay"=dword:00000008
"TdrLevel"=dword:00000003

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Dwm]
"OverlayTestMode"=dword:00000005

save as [whatever].reg and click
reboot

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tried this on 23.10.2 version. also cleared shader cache. The rs500 works somehow. BUT!!! Yet another car the Ford GT (classic) has the same issue. Using the car for A CLASS career now. No autosave tune is saved for the car.

will try the previous amd software

The AMD thingy just said if i wanted to report the issue

UPDATE: reverted to 23.9.3 th FORD GT in Career works. Will update if there will be problems again.

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I think im having the same issue game crashes going into tuning menu locks up and has to “optimize shaders” on relaunch

Well ive tryed all the little tricks. I play on a rig with a dell 32 curved 1440 p monitor

Well i came home today and ran the game on my desk monitor and it went into the tuning screen no problem but thats an Alienware oled Ultra Wide so ive tryed drivers cables maybe its a resolution thing im still stumped

Revirted to old divers and my issue is fixed on the rig

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Well it seems the game runs more stable now when racing. But not in the tuning section. It is totally random now. I can tune cars but will crash midway tuning now.

I cannot see any pattern…
The game will still crash in rewards section and a whole lot of other things. It will still crash going on tuning but more random .

Tho i have less frame drops with the older AMD 23.10.2, no optimizing shaders… But the game doesn’t look as good as with the 23.10.2 and still is a crashfest

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happened to me a few times crashing while tuning and directly after exit tuning on multiple cars

had no tuning crashes before the hotfix

NVidia btw.

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Yeah that’s all i can do…

It’s 2 types of crashes for you. The last one is your graphics and i have no amd hardware to fiddle around with it. The one with the autosave crashing the game after upgrade is different thing and needs fix from dev.

Normally u run latest driver there is no real reason to go back. But there is no chance for me to say do this and that to see whats happening on your pc. And i’m not able to play around with the code itself without risking ban.

Play around with latest driver and delete all the schaders and idk the one u showed in video is not on my nvidia/setup. You have windows accent color on automatic? Turn it off
Lots of other stuff u can try but yeah u end with the other bug wich needs fix from dev…

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Thanks for the help so far! It still is a FORZA problem and up to the developer to get all of the problems fixed, i really hope they get it sorted out. The racing is nice but its just to buggy and crashy and the game doesn’t has a lot other things to offer then nice racing. But that’s hard when it crashes all the time…
Cyberpunk 2077 was more stable then this and i wouldn’t consider cyberpunk as an empty and base like game…

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Its amd driver issue, install driver version 23.8.2 and problem will be fixed, at cost of rt artifacts

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Same issue with 23.8.2 driver. It has more to do with corrupted tuning autosaves as mentioned. But those corrupted autosaves/tunes cannot be deleted.

Making the whole car setup/tune area not accescable. Which is a shame as it is hard to be competitive in onlie racing if you can’t adjust springs dampers etc.

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You can delete career saves.
Just restart the career series that are corrupted first.
Restart.
Make your own tune save.
Go into my tunes, and delete the saves without car pictures (career saves).
The career bug comes back, but tuning in multiplayer up until qualifying seems to work.
Any tweaks after qualifying make me hang still.