Cars - Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II 1990: Standard rear spoiler downforce level to low

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Car: Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II 1990

Bug: Standard rear spoiler downforce level to low

System: PC & Xbox (always reproducable)

The car comes with a standard spoiler and an option to remove it only. There is no generic Forza spoiler available for this car. Instead the standard spoiler is adjustable.

The problem is that the standard value it’s set to and the whole adjustable range is way to low. This results in the car being not competitively drivable in higher classes like A and above as it’s missing downforce. The tail is simply way to loose.

The current standard value it’s set to is 7. Other adjustable spoilers have a value of ~150 and that is also about the value it had in FH4.


FH5 screenshot showing the problem


FH4 screenshot for comparison

I’ve reported this bug to the support twice already with the following two ticket numbers.

#280080 (over 1 year ago)
#408292 (~5 months ago)

@T10ManteoMax: The title doesn’t has enough space for the bug description because of the length of the car name.

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Additional values from the games I own that the car is in, unit is kgf:
Title Minimum Standard Maximum
FH5 3 7 12
FH4 102 153 204
FM7 83 127 172
FH3 48 81 114
FH2 34 62 91

FH5 is way off.

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Such an iconic car in touring car racing as well. I’ve several liveries in this car. But all I can use them for is drifting. This car is entitled to be an absolute rocket.

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Shorten name in title:

MB190E2.5-16Evo2 ?

Then full title in description

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I have FM5 and FM6, let me see if i can fetch the values in kgf

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Don’t forget to vote!

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FM5: Min: 83 Std.: 127 Max: 172
FM6: Min: 83 Std.: 127 Max: 172

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I’m browsing on Safari on iPhone and have no option to vote.

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The “How to” clearly says to use the complete ingame name but the issue was addressed already anyway.

Is there no little box with a number and “Vote” in the top left above the first post that you can click?

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I might turn it into a separate topic but on top of this technical issue, this car also has some modelling issues, like the passenger mirror being the same size as the driver’s mirror, which is inaccurate but fixable unlike the other modelling issues this car has
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9 out of 10 car model allegedly. :wink: Hope this legend gets the love it deserves.

Voted. :white_check_mark:

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Yes - found it. I never spotted it before. Thank you. (And voted!)

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The rules say only one bug report per topic. If you want to have this issue addressed then please start a separate topic.

/edit: I see you already did. I’d suggest to add “Car, Bug, System” descriptions like I did in the OP to your topic.

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  • Cars - 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II - Rear spoiler downforce level has less options then previous games. (Date Updated: 02.28.23)

So, they won’t fix it and simply say it has less options now. Sigh…

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Due to risks associated with changing car performance, gameplay behaviours and impact to other players, we are not considering making any changes to car performance or car parts unless a certain car modification/performance results into a game-breaking event such as client crashes or heavily disrupting gameplay scenarios.