Anyone know if there will be a proper anticheat in this game or will it be like horizon games? Where cheats roam free and nothing will be done about it ?
I prefer that a dev will answer or someone who knows. And feel free to talk about it 2 
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They work on it or idk
This cant be good for the game.
Depends but i dont think they find the right people.
The qualifications stuff in the job offer already says âno ideaâ and other thing is the money. Itâs 2023 every kid without âqualificationsâ but âstrongâ knowledge of the stuff can do more money with various bug bountys from home with lots of time for other things.
Same for the other side cheat/modder/crackers can do money now through paetron and so on. People donate money to crack games. Money changes everythingâŚ
EpicGames bought Kamu (developers of EasyAntiCheat) they added Byfron in late 2022 to the game so the free game is protected by atleast 3 anticheat tools and people (esports) still can buy custom hacks for fortnite. Roblox added byfron and there is already lots of public bypasses.
Motorsport is different game (without millions of players) so it is easier to protect and for lots of kids the simulation is anticheat enough. In the end it depends on the people they have and how fast they react in the cat/mouse thingy 
(they canât even fix simple bugs after 2 years)
But probably ends in âlets implement/add this and that - we have no idea what we doâ.
Biggest problem of the whole thing is it always affects the âreal playersâ mostâŚ
Na⌠Itâs a paid games. And itâs forza look at the fancy AI this and AI that (FRR)âŚ
I know already what happens in the âplay 5 days earlier phaseâ here in forum
All the new fancy bugs, broken featuresâŚ
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FH5 is own thing. They added the Arxan crap for unknown reason (game was cracked on day1).
The store was flooded with âMy game doesnât startâ so it only affected legit owners and was no protection. Other thing is the container/ms stuff wich affects more users.
And they still have
Disable ALL background software or applications, including, Antivirus, Firewalls, and any FPS boosting or monitoring software.
on the support page. They âprotectâ the game and the enduser has to disable every protection. Itâs stupid nothing else! Same for the other software they list, useless, most gamers have atleast 1 running (ghub cmon)
Game is 2 years old they can remove the stuff. Itâs fine⌠Capcom removed trash denuvo from their games too.
But yeah thats stuff to prevent piracy and there was never any/proper anticheat in the game.
The invalid times on the leaderboard was caused by the game and/or legit features no cheats used. Money is mostly useless in the game so no cheat required.
They can simply add some âtrusted playerâ feature to the game with less power than the âmodâ feature. If these players report some times/scores from leaderboard remove these entries.
Same in Motorsport if someone (trusty not random streamers) watched rivals replay and says this canât be done then look into it. And itâs their physics they know how fast the car is in best case or how fast the ai can handle the track⌠An uncheated âAIâ can beat every track faster than normal players so you have max values if someone is doing same or faster look into it.
Itâs just math u can tell if someone played with the grip values or other things. They can do this for every corner⌠Itâs a racing game, not many places to cheat (speed, grip, fuel/wear/weather maybe)
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Thats normal, the code is (re)compiled so some offsets/pointers/patterns change. Nothing todo with âanticheatâ or playground/t10 targeting some tools.
Big question is if they even try todo something. Take rockstar with gta5 as example they have the big money and people and the game is flooded with cheaters/modders since ever. They do ânothingâ only if the paid/money stuff is not working/abused.
T10/Playground is not doing more money after release. Maybe some carpack here and there but yeah. The playerbase is small compared to other games they can simply ignore the stuff and move on to next release wich brings new money.
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Again itâs how it works⌠They have to compile the executable again and the compiler is optimizing things and stuff. The binary is not same then. If they still have the araxan on top then it adds own stuff and obfuscation.
Take a look at some of the cheats (random table from internet)
To add their âFree upgrade costsâ they have to inject own code on ForzaHorizon5.exe+3AE37D4 (location of the executable in memory + 0x3AE37D4 bytes) wich is fixed offset and breaks after update but here they search for these â45 8B 64 24 38â bytes in memory. Its unique in this case so it works after updates and injects on correct offset (atm). They then add their âxor r12d, r12dâ code wich makes it 0 and now u pay nothing for the upgrade.
ForzaHorizon5.exe+3AE37D1: 4C 8B F0 - mov r14,rax
// ---------- INJECTING HERE ----------
ForzaHorizon5.exe+3AE37D4: 45 8B 64 24 38 - mov r12d,[r12+38]
// ---------- DONE INJECTING ----------
ForzaHorizon5.exe+3AE37D9: 49 8B 5D 00 - mov rbx,[r13+00]
This one shows how lazy the stuff is codedâŚ
To make the car free in autoshow they simply change some dbquery string and set costs in database to 0 so every car is now free. (No other checks or whatever)
writeString("ForzaHorizon5.exe+6485A77", "Data_Car SET BaseCost = 0 WHERE BaseCost >0
But this one has a fixed offset of 0x6485a77 bytes this needs to be changed after forza update or it can overwrite other code and game crashes or whatever but cheat doesnât work anymore until new offset is in. Its seconds to fix for the âcheaterâ just simple search in memory. If the cheatcreator adds some stuff he can make it work for all versions but he was lazy too
In the end it shows there is no anticheat in the game
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If they go in the same direction as FH5, MS that is then yes unfortunately it will be rife. Player count and sales is the winner for MS not player satisfaction. This will be the first Forza I have not pre-ordered the premium edition and taken a customary 2 weeks off work to play it since FH2. Gamepass version will be sufficient. I sincerely hope to be proved wrong but I doubt I will.
Edit: Describing Microsoft as M+dollar sign is not allowed I just found out.
In official MS Store GER some user rated the game 1/5 for not starting with WeMod installed and he wants refundâŚ
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The time he is doing is the important thing itâs only small portion faster wich makes it so hard to detect later.
although his original user name (which still comes up if you click on player) is a bit of a giveaway 
Ok he is waiting on finishline to make it look legit but watching the replays idk he is driving like noob always on road not using full track
Xbox says he is still enjoying rivals
There is also alot of cheaters in fh5 who is smart but they can be caught if you know what to look for, one example is they use gravity cheat for more grip and you can clearly see that in dirt races as they dont get the same amount of airtime as the rest, but yeah i bet there will be alot of cheater hete to who will make it so they are very hard to detect.
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heâs been removed from the E class boards - that was quick 
although I think some other times that I thought were legit have gone too
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There is no anticheatâŚand if there is it doesnât work at all because people are using X class cars in the A class OPEN SERIES.
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Not just thisâŚ
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Glitch to Level Cars to 50 in under 3 hours since day 2 after Release
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Now the Old Speed Glitch from FM7 to make Millions in some minutes
Boy this Game is⌠I don´t no what to say 
So its just fh5 but for more serious cheaters 
now i know i did the right thing and never paid for it
How do you know it is a glitch âGlitch to Level Cars to 50 in under 3 hours since day 2 after Releaseâ. I have 1 level 50 car and my second car is almost level 50 because I had the game almost a week before the release because I got the premium version of the game.
I highly doubt itâs âALWAYSâ a problem with the Steam version of the game. I assume it could be a bit easier to cheat with that version compared to the Microsoft Store version because the MS version is packaged a bit different and I guess Xbox accounts are less disposable. If I remember correctly, Halo Wars 2 had some cheaters and thereâs been no Steam release for it.
Unfortunately PC games inherently will have issues with cheaters. Steam, Epic, GOG and all the other PC clients just sell the games, they shouldnât be blamed for a game having cheaters. Itâs really up to the game developer.
Personally I think leaderboards should be separated between console and PC and crossplay should be opt in. I donât think itâs fair on the console players otherwise.
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Full device bans would bother with customer protection laws in some countries - France for example. There might be other european countries as well. Donât think Microsoft likes to pay a multimillion dollar fee because some player would like to get a better cheat protection.
It is sad to say but the truth will maybe that there are more players that are cheating and playing as there are players stop playing because of cheaters.