“Until then over the next three months our updates will be new content only.”
does this mean no previous series cars?? we’re up to 32 time gated cars in the game that’s ridiculous
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They should use the June Xbox Showcase to show a trailer for the second half of the year plans, which would help get a bit more exposure to the game.
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That is such a vague message to the community after all this time, leaving everyone to try and read between the lines.
What I take from it is the plug has been pulled and we wont be receiving anymore bug fixes, features or quality of life updates anytime soon.
I’m sorry, but this does not inspire hope or confidence that that number of major issues yet to be addressed or even really acknowledged will ever be sorted.
“As we’ve been working through all this new content, we’ve also been continuing to look towards future updates. This means that our work on some of the features we previously announced for early 2025 may be re-evaluated as we complete our new plans. Until then over the next three months our updates will be new content only. That was a very difficult decision, however we are excited to continue to bring new content and experiences to you.”
This reads as though things like community hub, returning rewards and such that were promised for 2024 may not even see the light of day having to be re-evaluated.
I hope I’m totally wrong and they have some big game changing update in the works. But a message like this has done nothing but cause more confusion, disappointment and speculation.
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The game isnt fundamentally broken, gran turismo has the luxury of a much larger player base due to it being on playstation as well as always having less competition on the playstation platform. Ive always had both consoles, always played both franchises, even though theyre similar they have their differences. I think they also have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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Gran turismo 7 isnt universally loved among its players. Its had as well as has issues, just like every other game does.
Its like asking why someone would want test drive solar crown when the crew exists, or why want the crew when horizon exist. People play different games, some people also play every game.
I personally think it would do alright, i think it’s more than obvious horizon will do better. But i think its worth trying considering if this franchise doesnt try something, this will be the last one.
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I don’t agree on a basis of quality. The thing about Horizon on PS5 is that Horizon would be a…new big dog, so to speak, in the open-world racing market on the system. The current cream of that crop is The Crew Motorfest and GTA Online (!), and neither one can do what Forza Horizon can do. Expanding out to that market makes good business sense, because it would easily get more player participation and encourage possible fringe benefits in making competing products step up their game.
That wouldn’t happen with a Forza Motorsport port. First off, Gran Turismo is the Big Dog™, and that has never really changed despite what you, I, or they may have felt about that. Second thing is, this Forza Motorsport is the wrong entry to be putting up against Gran Turismo. Motorsport 6 or 7 (or 4, even)? Yeah, I can see a modest little competition happening. Motorsport 2023…you might as well put Jack Doherty in the octagon against Francis Ngannou, because it would wrap up about the same. The only benefit of a Forza Motorsport 2023 port to PlayStation would come if the resulting beatdown by Gran Turismo was so utterly comprehensive and humiliating that it drives Phil Spencer to restructure and reinvest in Turn 10, and then order a new entry to make sure that never happens again.
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Their words & actions/results have made it crystal clear, and at this point, it could reek of severe hopium addiction to speculate & read between the lines dreaming of potentially big positives yet to come.
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Bro you posted like 4 paragraphs and still somehow said nothing.
“We’re updating the game”
I mean yeah, but can we get a little more than that? Why bother posting this at all lol.
Where’s the roadmap?
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Although i enjoy your writing skills i think youre being a little dramatic as to how any of this would pan out. Its not a competition, its just another option. Like i said motorsport is multiplatform, the more players the better things are for all involved.
Playstation racing fans get another option, xbox and pc players get full lobbies and turn 10 might make some money so they dont have to choose whether to stop working on this game to go help finish another.
I know you own both consoles, play both games and the reason why is likely the same as mine, more options. Theres nothing wrong with more options.
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It’s not like you are being too subtle about it. According to you, anyone who likes drifting or fujimi kaido is an immature tiktok kid who doesn’t know better. Again, you can despise the old days of FK, but lots have changed for Forza since then, and today this track would have its place in the game in rivals, drift lobbies, private lobbies and at the very least low-class FMP.
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You say this as if we know what’s being worked on.
Turn 10 has never given us any information of what they’re “working on” for the entire life cycle of the game.
Roadmap? WHAT ROADMAP? I’D LOVE TO SEE IT
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Again, stop putting words in my mouth. You’re not getting a response to anything else in that until you figure that out.
That’s possible, but would the ROI be there to justify it? There’s the rub. It’s going to cost money and time to port it over to be PlayStation compatible. With Horizon, which has been very successful and would be moving into a market that isn’t exactly overflowing with choice, that’s an almost guaranteed win and the only drawbacks against it would be a few XBox brand stalwarts feeling betrayed and/or a disastrous port. With Motorsport, the calculus changes. “If you come at the king, you best not miss.” That and what I said earlier sounds dramatic, but it’s the truth. It’s clearly evident that Motorsport 2023 has not been successful on it’s home turf; a PlayStation port could be throwing good money after bad. It would be the kind of move that either results in logic-defying success or incredible failure. Not only are a lot of game companies incredibly averse to taking long shots like that, but they’re so averse that even your scenario would fall into that latter column for them. It’s been that way for years - the brilliant Tomb Raider reboot sold like hotcakes in 2013 and SquareEnix still was upset because they wanted more.
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Because they added the track and didn’t feature that race anywhere. Not career, not online, it was strictly a freeplay track.
This game needs a “No Man’s Sky” level of updates.
We are missing about 100 core features, cars, tracks, modes, options, stats. We don’t seem to be getting it, game will stay dead.
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Unfortunately, forzas home turf hasnt been a successful place for most games regardless of their quality. This is exactly why this topic is even being discussed, the xbox brand is not what it once was.
Its sad to say as xbox is my preferred console, but i dont think Microsoft really cares which box you own. Pc, xbox, switch, playstation, cell phone, tablet, samsung tv or lg tv, money is money and wherever they can generate it, is where their games will be.
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Same. The bulk of my gaming library is on XBox, and I’ve been pretty staunchly pro-XBox since about very late in the first generation’s lifecycle. To say that I’ve been disappointed in this generation would be a slight understatement, and I feel like Motorsport 2023 is a highly-concentrated example of everything wrong with it. Getting into that is for another topic, however.
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I’d be all for cross over to Playstation, if it had a working rating and matching system, balanced spec classes, and better initial wheel settings. It already has better options for multiplayer than GT7 which literally only has 3 races that only change on a weekly basis. And Forza is competitive on a controller.
But without compelling, competitive multiplayer (even a lot of players won’t fix the current matching) and the bad look of poor wheel support (when it’s actually good with decent settings), it would loose interest immediately in comparison to GT7. Gotten right though, i think it would be a serious threat given access to xbox and pc players for a larger player pool.
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Motorsport 2023 needs a lot more than that. I personally don’t play very much multiplayer, but even taking the singleplayer element into consideration, there still isn’t much of a contest to be had. Say what you want about the Menu Books, but you can’t deny that there is a level of care and detail and consideration put into each of them that Motorsport 2023 sorely lacks. In a sense, I would say that Gran Turismo 7’s career evokes the Builder’s Cup mentality that Motorsport 2023 tried and failed to encourage, because you can go pretty far with cars across PP levels before you have to think about switching to another vehicle if you want.
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Unfortunately Sony is winning in a big way. If your own delusional country doesn’t get behind it’s companies failure and collapse is on the way…
My unrealistic hope from day one was that this game would become the No Man’s Sky of racing games. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to be the case, but who knows, maybe this message is a sign this might change.
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Isn’t universally loved? Do you have some specs to back that up or are you just pulling that out of thin air? Have a source to site?
And then, in keeping with your flow of logic, it’s like asking someone to test FM when GT7 already exists. Why? And why even more given the reputation FM has built on YouTube and in the forums?
Just for pulling numbers out of thin air, if 1/4 of GT7 players are dissatisfied with GT7, and it’s a safe bet an easy 2/3’s of the players of FM are dissatisfied with the game. GT7 still has an easy 5 times more happy players (if not many more) than FM.
It’s very unlikely FM will attract a viable audience on PlayStation to make switching platforms financially feasible.