Starting grid position

I may be an idiot here (hoping so actually), but for some reason I end up starting in either 1st or 2nd on like every race in free play. Its kind of boring because the race is usually over before it starts and its just not a challenge. I suppose I could let some cars pass me, but that seems like a lousy work around. Ideally it would be random or something.

So the question is whether there is a way to set this or change it anywhere?

I believe that the grid ordering in free play is based off the highest to lowest pi rating of the cars. Only way I have gotten around it was downgrading my car or I think you could use the mod cards that sets you back in the pack.

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yes mod dare you start at the back, it works a treat.

It is like theSNaiL46 said, grid position in free play is based on PI from highest to lowest. The two ways to alter is lessen your PI or use one of the mod cards to put you in the back.

The guy who suggested lowering your Pi, that’s one way of going about it. Though even if you’re starting out at the top, you can make it more challenging by not using mods, cranking up the AI skill and making the race longer (between 5-10 laps ideally).

The mod card is the best option. I wish forza had the option to set the starting grid, car by car I mean. I’d like that.

you can also set the class to any and pick any car you want and most of the time you will start 3/4’s at the back because the ai cars pi are set around your pi.

High-time the game had qualifying, don’t you think? Don’t know why they never add that.

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One of the previous FMs had qualifying. It took forever and no one used it.

Increase difficulty to max, manual with clutch, all assists off and you can keep the brake line

One more of the serious design flaws this game has.

I remember the qualifying, it was horrible and everyone looked to get past it, I simulate it all the time in Project Cars because it is so boring to do. I feel the better option is to have points for the series and your points determine start grid position.

I really wish the game had qualifying, BUT have it optional. Also, have it not affect the payout of the race, because it’s probably 50/50 on the amount of people who would like qualifying and those who wouldn’t.

I just want it mainly for doing the really high level races. There are times when I get fed up trying to do R or P class races on tracks like Long Beach or Rio, because it can be nearly impossible to get around all of the opponents without destroying your own car, and sometimes I end up having to drive too aggressively to take the lead by the end of the race. A few more laps would probably solve the problem, but I’d rather just have qualifying.

Would also like it for the use of getting to the back of the field in lower class races where it’s much less stressful to get to the front. Plus that way I could get to the back of the field without having to use any mods.

It’s like a lot of things that infuriate people in Forza, the option to have it would be welcomed greatly.

The lack of options makes this game frustrating in so many ways.

You nailed it! This in my opinion is the only real problem with the game, theres no options. Qualifying is one of my favorite things to do… I love hot lapping but the career mode doesn’t have that. I loved forza 2’s hot lapping challenges but that’s not a feature anymore. Just the option to have qualifying would be awesome. I know about half the people wouldn’t do qualifying but what about the rest of us that would?

Other than some people feeling that it is boring to race a race as qualifying, just to race it again ‘for real’. The biggest part of why it gets boring to me is that you qualify for 1st pretty consistently and that means you start in pole and thus win without any challenge. I get people want to qualify to get around the boneheaded AI but I would avoid it like the plague.

I like qualifying because it adds to the immersion, it’s not much effort to do 1 or 2 hot laps to get a grid position. And if it gets too easy, turn up the difficulty.