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Tips & Miscellany

The Trial

  1. Lakehurst Forest Circuit
  2. Princes Street Garden Circuit
  3. The Colossus

Won this on first try, though yet again I was driving price car without realising it.

Porsce 906 Carrera turned out be way faster in every race than #24 Ferrari P4 and Drivatar cars. We had three Porsche and three Ferrari’s. In all the races I finished second after really fast player also driving Porsche, on two out of three races. Porsches took triple win.

Recommended car: Porsche 906 Carrera. I know it’s rare, but since it’s low starting pi, it can be AWD swapped.

Forgot to share my tune before I reset it to stock, so no tune this time, but I may get back to this.

EDIT: Did Trial 9 more times. 4 times with Ford, 4 times with Ferrari and once more with Porsche with new tune. Porsche was still overwhelmingly good experience, thanks to AWD swap. Other cars turned out to be great too, no Trial lost in my 10 runs on this.

Tunes shared for all eligible cars.

Playground Games: We were 6 vs. 5 in first event, flag rush and during that entire blue team quit. Easy win.

PR Stunts: Bugatti Veyron SS X-class for all.

Championships completed on Unbeatable without traction control, etc using stock vehicles when possible.

Championship: Touring Masters.

Did this with Mercedes. Won easily on Whitehorse Hill Trail (lot’s of tarmac) and Mortimer’s Garden Scramble (some tarmac) but couldn’t secure championship win on Ambleside Scramble with stock Mercedes. Tried BMW too, but noticed that Drivatars got faster. After numerous retries my best position was 7th and I was not able to repeat my fastest lap (9:49.xxx) so decided I don’t have all night and did just AWD swap to Mercedes, went out for blood and won the last event too.

Recommended car: '90 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II

Championship: Muscle vs. Import

Took '92 Honda NSX on this. This is series of three Street Races, Edinburgh Stockbridge, North Coast Rush, the Monument Wynds and one Drag Race on the Juggernaut. Really enjoyed this one, since Honda NSX suspension isn’t messed up by certain places on Monument Wynds.

Won all the events, was bit surprised how easy Juggernaut turned out to be.

Whatever car you choose, it might be good leave Monument Wynds last of Street Races, get bit familiar with the car before getting there.

On Stockbridge, getting fast exit from section which is the same as Johnston Terrace Speed Zone near Edinburgh Castle helps a lot. Flat out but bake a bit early before 90 degrees left. 2nd gear.

North Coast Rush. Early in the race keep your eyes open for traffic on either left or right lane. Go flat out but brake to low degree right as it tightens, 3rd gear on NSX for that, then flat out. After going trough fence, brake a bit late, stay on 3rd, take inside, feather gas. 2nd gear to the following left over very short dirt section. If Drivatars are jammed up there because of traffic or something else, take right, outside line to pass them. When approaching 90 degree left near Bamburgh castle, brake early.

Monument Wynds. At least Honda NSX can shortcut first turn over sidewalk without going completely haywire if you are carefull with throttle. Aim for being at least on 6th position right before Bridge. Cut over sidewalks for 90 right and left. You can win if you are in drafting distance of leading Drivatar when going through section where there are tramway tracks.

Juggernaut is easy if you keep drafting and have right racing line to go through small curve on route without braking, as Drivatars always slow down a lot there.

Recommended car: '92 Honda NSX

Community Championship

  1. The History of Ponycar by Freshgalnet
  2. Muscling in on Edinburgh by Swooshiain
  3. In for a Pony in for a Pound by Kowal 3D

Took Mustang DD on this. Won all the events on first try though it looked bad at couple of places on Muscling in on Edinburgh and In for a Pony… My saving grace was rubber band and that Drivatars weren’t really good on some technical sections.

I liked this one quite a bit, everything worked on Unbeatable and routes could shine. I will probably get back to these, but I really liked that first race is easiest one, giving opportunity to get used to car and then routes get more technical, most technical being In for a Pony in for a Pound.

Recommended Car: Mustang DD

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EDIT: Saw this asked. I tried using Nissan PO but it doesn’t register for this.

Did Goliath with stock Nissan and it was quite breeze, did some mistakes but still won easily with time 10:35.592.

Soon after start there’s sidewalk on left that can be used as shortcut and easy to pass one or two Drivatars. Section after brige is good too if you can maintain speed there. After driving a while mountain side on the left route starts sharing same section as Mortimer’s Pass Street Race, there are many good passing opportunities here if you line your car inside curve, over flags.

Near the end of section that is the same as Glen Finnan Chase Street Race, there is steep curve to right before bridge, low degree curve going uphill can be taken with braking line red, same goes for following, turning to left and it’s easy to take a lead here if you can keep your momentum. Rest is pretty straigth forward. Remember to enjoy redlining the sixth after you have passed Bamburgh Castle.

For the rest of it, keep sensible speed and it should be easy.

Did Drift Tap Skills on Horizon Festival area but felt it was perhaps too tight in there. It can be done there but perhaps there are other area that makes it easier.

Dare Devil skills → motorway

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Porsche is pretty good but imo Ford is best choise because it’s fastest overall but after all it’s mostly personal prefence what to use

Ford, fastest overall (my only problem with this one is that i need to press brake trigger more than I’m used to)

Porsche, bit slower than Ford but easiest one to drive.

Ferrari, bit slower than other two and only that cant awd swap but can beat AI still easily and it’s fun to drive.

While i was doing trial second time some mysterious force make this happend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb29h6EBQwY

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sweet another season of broken… after lego update. yes i sent bug reports. zero contact back.

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MarcAkAwHiTe’s GT40 “A Road Grip” tune was good enough for me to dog-walk the field (even against probably the 2nd-best overall team I’ve ever had) in the first two races of the Trial, and end up 2nd in a photo finish after a catastrophic error in the last stretch before the dam crossing on the Colossus.

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The Ford #2 GT40 MK II I apparently already had, but I didn’t have the 24 Ferrari. And it’s a 10 million CR autoshow car, so I’ll take that, Thank you.

I had to do the Goliath twice. Came in second the first time. I would like to be where I was some months ago; able to beat Expert level AI more often than not. I would also like to not have my controller permanently embedded in the wall. These two goals are mutually exclusive.

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Have struggled with the Trial so far because every time I’ve been in it, most of my team have quit after the first race (I actually came in best of the human players in the first race twice, but only made it to third - which is still my best ever finish in a Trial, right enough!).

Not sure if there’s something been a bit glitchy, or if people are just assuming the 2nd/3rd races are unwinnable if we don’t win the first?

Get the feeling I just need to be lucky with one good team and we’ll nail it. I also wish I hadn’t gone for the Ferrari, as struggling with the RWD control (I tend to play AWD wherever possible) so saving up FP to get the Ford and will try that on AWD if it’s possible.

Thought the races on the Mustang v Pony championship were fiendish as hell. Shamefully admit to having to use lots of rewind when (due to my colour blind ass struggling to see the racing line at points) I just went flying past various 90 degree checkpoint turns without even noticing them ! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Its actually easier when everyone else drops out in a trial race
I wish everyone quit after the first race almost every week…so i can win the next 2 races and not be smashed about by my own “team mates”
Unless you are terrible yourself and need the others to carry you

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I’m not good enough to win it on my own. I generally manage around 4th-6th on Trials now (I’ve only been playing the game since September, so I think I’m doing ok considering I’m still basically a rubbish newbie), so I definitely need a bit of carrying! I’m a contributor rather than a winner. :wink:

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Did 9 more runs on Trial today and really liked Ford. Made new tune for Porsche and it’s still my favourite. I liked Ferrari too but what I checked from diagnostics, it has tendency to heat rear tyres a lot more than front. Might be what caught you. Happened to me on one of my Colossus runs today.

I have shared tunes for this Trial for all the eligible cars. They are more on handling side than speed but yet no Trial lost of total 10 runs I have made so far.

Community champ had few places where routes had benefitted from props, to signal turns, but overall very good IMO.

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I think my biggest problem (in terms of my own performance) is that I am god-awful with RWD at the moment. As I say, I tend to use AWD, and if I’d realised the Ferrari could only be tuned to RWD for the Trial eligibility, I would have spent my FP on the Ford instead. Now I need to save up another 500 FP to get it!

I just can’t seem to get to grips (pun only slightly intended) with RWD racing. I feel like I just go flying off the track too easily while the Drivatars seem to have tyres made of glue and velcro.

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RWD’s can be great gun in FH4 but they are not intuitive to get on to. If you want to get fast on RWD, forgot how Drivatars drive on higher classes and focus on time. In the end we are all racing against the clock. Drivatars has certain time brackets depending from set difficulty they aim for, so they are on the clock too.

Cars are not equal, '98 Porsche GT1 is really different compared to '10 Ferrari 599 GTO in ways I don’t think is easily gathered from mere 11 points of PI. Porsche have weird tyre choice stock, gearing is weird. If you start with something like Porsche, you end up good, but may start hating the game LOL.

Check some RWD from the lower classes. C, B, A. start racing it on stock on some route on whatever difficulty you prefer, then once you start winning consistently, up difficulty and repeat. It’s long route but that’s one way to learn to race any car there is in game, stock or upgraded, get good positions on Trials. Upgrading tuning is good to learn, but first learn to race, upgrades make cars faster, not the driver.

And I don’t think new players should sweat about it too much. There’s been threads popping up every now and then about Drivatars being unfair. My educated guess would be that it’s more about couple of really unforgiving routes in game, perhaps some inconsistent player cars, which look good to go even on Unbeatable, despite having some flaw that is not discoverable by just staring PI.

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Hmm, think that is probably the strongest trial team I’ve ever been on. Won the first two races 3,650 - 0 and the Colossus 2,650 - 1,000 (two guys in a stock Ferrari struggled more in that one). Good respectful driving as well. Was a great example of what a strong team can do.

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Yes, quite enjoyable this Trial.

Did first run of Trial in the Porsche 906 and came 2nd twice and 1st once, car handles very nicely but Ford #2 GT40 had that little bit extra.

Have done several now in the GT40 and have come first in all bar one Trial where a fellow driver was running the Porsche and just got me on 2 out of 3 (I think he was running manual).

Have tunes up for both if anyone interested in giving them a go, just search for the tunes under my gametag.

Happy racing people.

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I’m pretty sure that a good tune for the GT40 edges a similar tune for the 906 on the first and third tracks. Possibly the Porsche has a slight edge on the second as it seems better through the corners. Haven’t fully experimented though - that was just my impression from running example tunes of each and from racing against decent drivers driving the Porsche when I used the GT40.

I doubt the Ferrari is as strong given you can only drive it RWD and there presumably isn’t too much scope for modification given it’s starting PI of A799. Its still more than capable of beating the drivatars stock though.

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I was sure that 906 is easily faster in second track than GT40 but after running rivals in that track yesterday in my hands 906 was only 0.1 second faster than GT40.

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:joy: Seriously!!!

That being said, I’m not a collector so is it still worthwhile for me to invest in either or both of the Classic Racers currently in the Forzathon Shop from the point of racing them in MP? If they aren’t any good then I’d prefer to skip them. All opinions welcome! TIA

Your team must’ve had the Porsche tuned for top speed. I had my 906 tuned for acceleration so it was unbeatable for the Princes Street circuit, but lacked legs for Colossus. However, I had a well-balanced team that consisted of all three car brands with a good mix of tunings. So from the perspective of random matchmaking, the stars aligned nicely in that we each had a tuning that was perfect for a particular course, and that we weren’t overloaded in either speed or acceleration as a team. That was a first. So I can see how team racing via convoy is a huge advantage over random matchmaking when teammates’ car selections are planned in advance of entering a Trial.

I had to do the Spring Games three times. :expressionless: Got on the Blue Team all three times! :joy: However, what I noticed is that it really doesn’t matter which team you’re on because, in the case of Flag Rush for example, the team that goes on offense first is random with each game. So if going on offense first is your preference for Flag Rush, then being on the Blue Team can be like being on the Red Team. The only issue I have with the Blue Team is where Matchmaking always gives the Red Team an extra player whenever the rosters are uneven. I don’t play the Seasonal Games all that often, but that’s my observation of it so far.

Yes, I absolutely agree! This was definitely my favorite Trial for Series 15! Proof that a simple A800 road Trial can be a lot of fun too.

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Classic Racers are IMO some of the most underused potential of FH4 SP. I really liked racing them stock on Custom Routes, lower class Jaguar, Ferrari, Maserati, Porsche, really great cars. Even on mid classes there is often quite a difference between sport car and (classic) racer. Racing stock is acquired taste I suppose, but there are certain things, like taking Ferrari 250 California on road and after that, racing version, 250 TR. Experience can be like realising something and I sometimes think FH4 doesn’t get enough credit for making that sort of thing possible.

You could try racing rentals to see if they fit in what kind of experiences you are looking from the game. They are very expensive, but also unique in more than visual aspects. Colossus, Holyrood Park Circuit, the Goliath, the Marathon from basic routes IMO work for Classic Racers.

Me Three!

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Thanks for your insight on the two cars! I was hoping there was something special about them other than just their histories. I’ve seen a few people race the barn find GT40 in MP, so maybe I’ll take a serious look at that instead. Thanks for the suggestion!

Wow, I hadn’t even considered the rental for that purpose. That’s an excellent idea! Though I do feel bad about testing a car at the expense of teammates trying to win the Trial; but then again, I could always quit if I’m doing poorly with it. On another note, it’s a shame we can’t rent a variety of cars in FH4 as easily as we can in FM7.

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The Mustang /Camaro seasonal event … I have a camaro that I set up for a previous event … It’s launch /accel is just so good it makes it an easy 3 wins … Tune shared

Used the stock ferrari (799) for the trial got 2 x 4th places that I was happy about behind other blues … 3-0 trial win

The Nissan GTR has the same bug as before … I already owned the car so it didn’t ping … I had to buy it again. Enjoyed having to do something different like drift taps.
I did the race in drift tune … that was “interesting” ! The drift Tune on it is AWD (yuck) but works well if anyone is interested

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Seanbill - just to reply to your question below:

“I’m not a collector so is it still worthwhile for me to invest in either or both of the Classic Racers currently in the Forzathon Shop from the point of racing them in MP? If they aren’t any good then I’d prefer to skip them. All opinions welcome! TIA”

I’m not as familiar with these two cars as some others but thoughts on each would be:

#2 GT40 - This is a pretty strong car in both A and S1 class but not one of the absolute best for MP so far as I’m aware. From memory, the times I’ve done with it in A class are slightly slower than the barn find GT40 but that might just be a case of the tune I’ve used.

Ferrari - I really like this car in S1 - with the right tune it’s got fantastic handling. However, it isn’t one I’ve ever used in ranked MP as certainly the tune I use lacks top end speed. It isn’t a top tier car in my experience.

In short, both are decent cars which you may well find fun (and reasonably competitive) in unranked races but they probably won’t cut the mustard against the absolute top tier A or S1 class cars (the GT40 is closer to doing so though)…