Patate Hot Lap Series - #28 Le Mans 25

Welcome racers,

This is a friendly hot lapping competition, with a new challenge every week with a fresh selection of cars on a new track.

No registration necessary, all you need to do is post your times here in a correct format (see below). You can build your car in any way you want, as long as it matches the selection and PI restriction. Then go into Rivals mode, and have fun.

We’re competing for points, which cannot be redeemed for anything, and in fact do not serve any purpose. This is all for fun, for the spirit of friendly competition, to exchange tips and tricks on tuning, cars, and all things Forza.

See below in this main post for:

  • The details of the active challenge
  • A poll for you to vote on to influence the next challenge
  • How to submit a time
  • Others questions and answers
  • Previous event links and gallery

This week’s challenge

PHLS#28 - Le Mans 25

  • Deadline: 2025-05-29T16:00:00Z
  • Track: Circuit des 24 heures du Mans
  • Class: P 950
  • Eligibility: see below
Ordinal ID Car
3420 Acura 2020 Acura #6 ARX-05 DPi
3913 BMW 2023 BMW #25 BMW Team RLL M Hybrid V8
3866 CadV01 2023 Cadillac #01 Cadillac Racing V-Series.R
3867 CadV2 2023 Cadillac #2 Cadillac Racing V-Series.R
3792 CadV31 2023 Cadillac #31 Whelen Engineering Cadillac Racing V-Series.R
3669 CadDPI 2021 Cadillac #31 Whelen Racing DPi-V.R
3874 Lambo 2024 Lamborghini SC63
3876 Porsche 2024 Porsche #5 Porsche Penske Motorsport 963
Le Mans

Le Mans is the capital of the département of Sarthe, named after the Sarthe river that runs through Le Mans, joining there with the Huisne river. Le Mans is located at 200 km by road, and one hour by TGV, from Paris. It was established at least two centuries BCE under the name Vindinion (lit. “the white citadel”, from the limestone found in the area), renamed Vindunum after the Roman conquest of Gaul. Home of the Cenomani Gallic tribe, it was also known as the Civitas Cenomanorum, the city of the Cenomani, which became the Celmans in Middle French, and ultimately gave the name Le Mans to the city.

Le Mans saw many battles throughout history, owing to its central position between Normandy, Brittany, and Aquitaine. It was conquered by the Franks and integrated into the Kingdom of the Franks in the 6th century, before being captured by Guillaume de Normandie (aka William the Conqueror) in the 11th century, eventually becoming part of the Plantagenêt/Angevin Empire and de facto under the authority of the English crown. It was reconquered in the 15th century in the final years of the Hundred Year War and rejoined the Kingdom of France permanently. During the French Revolution, Le Mans was the site of a major battle in the counter-revolutionary war opposing Royalists to Republicans, and was a decisive victory for the newly formed French Republic. Almost a century later, in 1871, Le Mans was the site of another decisive battle, this time with a victory of the Prussian Empire against France.

Today, Le Mans is known for its pork rillettes, and that’s pretty much it.

Oh no, wait, there's that other thing...

Le Mans’ automotive history starts in shortly after the end of the Franco-Prussian war, in 1873, when inventor Amédée Bollée creates the Obéissante (lit. the obedient), a 4-wheeled steam-powered horseless carriage, sometimes considered the first automobile. Bollée would then go in 1875 on perhaps the first road trip in history from Le Mans to Paris (230 km in 18 hours which, at the time, was still very slow), predating Bertha Benz 1888’s trip in the Benz Patent-Motorwagen. In 1881, he would break the 60km/h barrier with the Rapide, possibly the fastest non-rail land vehicle on the planet at the time.

Amédée Bollée’s role as a pioneer of automobile was recognised at the creation of the Automobile Club de l’Ouest in 1906, becoming honorary president of the ACO. The ACO was founded to organise the first race to be named Grand Prix, to be held near Bollée’s hometown. In 1908, Amédée and his son Léon would host the Wright brothers for their first public flight and the demonstration of the Flyer Model A over the Hunaudières, a lieu-dit (lit. named place) on the outskirts of Le Mans.

The Hunaudières (or more strictly the Hunaudières straight, known in English as the Mulsanne straight even though Mulsanne is the name of the corner at the end of it) had been used for motor races since the 1880s, and became part of the layout of the 1911 Grand Prix of France, and was used again in 1921 on the layout that would be reused two years later for the first edition of the 24 heures du Mans. The Hunaudière was the longest straight in motor racing, with a top speed record of 407 km/h (253 mph) by the Peugeot-powered WM P88 (publicised as 405 by Peugeot) in 1988. For safety reasons, and to avoid an escalation, the ACO added chicanes in 1990, making this record unbeatable, and still to this day the fastest a (non-drag) race car has ever gone in any official competition.

The name used in Forza of Circuit de la Sarthe is not official. It is the Circuit des 24 heures du Mans, a temporary circuit using parts of départementale roads 338 (forming the Hunaudières up to the town of Mulsanne), 140 and 139 and parts of the permanent Circuit Bugatti.


Vote for the next events

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For event 30, we need a car to use on Road America

  • Super Trofeo
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  • Mustang RTR
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How to submit times

To submit a time, you need to post it in the following format, before the event’s deadline:

PHLS#1
ZCar#1:08.042

Respectively:

  • The challenge number you’re submitting to.
  • The car and time marker. On the left side, you must enter a valid ordinal or identifier (provided in the main post as part as the event details, or in the event sheet). On the right side, you must enter a valid time (use : and . as minute (if necessary) and decimal separators).
  • Some kind of proof that shows you’re on the correct track, with an eligible car, in the correct class, and of course your time. If your time is your current best, it will show up in the game’s leaderboards, this is prefered if possible.
Legacy format

This is the original format submission. It remains available for new events, but is slightly less convenient.

PHLS#1
TIME#1:08.042
CAR#343 or CAR#ZCar

Respectively:

  • The challenge number you’re submitting to.
  • The time you are posting. Do use : and . as minute (if necessary) and decimal separators.
  • The ordinal number or identifier of the car used for your time, provided in the main post as part of the event details, or in the event sheet.
  • Some kind of proof that shows you’re on the correct track, with an eligible car, in the correct class, and of course your time. If your time is your current best, it will show up in the game’s leaderboards. Otherwise, a picture such as this will suffice:


Questions?

About the magic robot

Why this format?

Submissions are collected by a magic robot, that will then process them and figure out who is the fastest. As such, it needs to code words (e.g. PHLS#, TIME#, CAR#) to know that you’re submitting a time and not simply discussing with other players.

How many times can I submit?

As many as you want. There is no limit. The bot will collect them all and figure out which is your fastest time.

You can also submit several times in a single post, as long as have the same number of TIME# and CAR# tags, and they’re in the same order.

I made a mistake in my submission, what do I do?

Mistakes happen. You can edit and update your submission all the way until the deadline. Do not edit your post after the deadline, or the magic robot will not count it.

If there’s a mistake to correct after the deadline, or if you have any other problem or question regarding submissions, tag me @AdmPatate and I’ll look into it.

How often will the magic robot work?

When I see a time is posted, provided it’s between business hours and sleeping hours, and outside vacation time. The process is automated, not automatic. So if your time doesn’t immediately appear in the leaderboard, don’t panic.

As long as you post before the deadline and is valid, your time will eventually by counted.

Does the robot verifies submissions?

No, the robot doesn’t do any verification, humans do. Submissions require some kind of proof so that everybody can audit the results. If you see a post that doesn’t check out, you can challenge it by tagging me @AdmPatate and whomever you’re challenging, replying or linking to the post you are challenging, and a short message like “this time is incorrect” or “this car is not eligible”.

Always be nice to each other, and don’t attribute to malice what is probably a simple error.

Is the magic robot bugged?

There are no bugs, only unintended features.

Event formats

Regular

Most events are regular events. Players can submit as many times as they want, use as many cars as they want, and their best time goes on the leaderboard. Points are awarded based on how many people you beat, with 5 base points for everybody, plus 5 points for each person slower than you. One extra point is awarded for submitting times with two different cars. Extra points are awarded for the top 5 (if at least 8 players) or top 3 (if at least 5 players).

Sidequest

These are event runs like a regular event, with an additional, optional challenge: the Sidequest. Sidequests do not award points, and are merely offered for the fun of it.

Sidequest are an alternative to banning cars too OP for the category, or unobtainable for new players, or for other creative challenges as they may arise.

Versus

In Versus events, cars are split in two (or more) teams of comparable performance. Players can set a time for each team, with their best time for each team going up on the leaderboard. That’s right, you can play on both teams.

Points are still awarded based on how many people you beat. One base point for all, plus one point for each time you beat (this includes your own times in a different team), plus extra points for the top 3. Players who submit times for multiple teams will receive points for their best time only.

The winning team is the team with the best combined first three times. Extra points will be awarded to all players who submitted a time for the winning group.

Group

In a Group event, cars are split in two (or more) groups of comparable performance. Players can set a time for each group, and their best time for each group will be put on the leaderboard. You can indeed play for both groups.

Unlike Versus events, each group is scored individually, using the standard rules of regular events. Players who submit times in multiple groups will be awarded their combined score in both groups.

Other questions

Why can’t I access the event sheet?

The event sheet is public to anyone with the link. The sheet is taken offline when the event rolls over to update final results and such. It might also be taken offline from time to time, for tests and fixes. Just check again later and you should have access again.

Can I make suggestions for future events?

You can. If you have an idea for a theme, for a group of cars to play with, for a particular track of challenge, don’t hesitate to post it.

Which car should I use?

Any car that is eligible for the active challenge. If you want to narrow the choice down, you have a few options.

  • Look at the leaderboard on the Current tab of the event sheet to see which cars the top players are using.
  • Explore the Car Details tab of the event sheet to sort and filter cars according to your preferences.
  • Test them all. You can submit as many times as you want, using as many cars as you want after all.
How do I sort and filter cars on the Car Details tab?

First, get yourself an editable filter view.

Option A

Open this link to the Car Details tab. You can save it in your favorites for quick access.
Then to the left of the page, click the three dots, then Duplicate view (alternatively, navigate to Data/View options/Duplicate view)


This will unlock the sort and filter options.

Option B

If you open the Car Details tab without an active view, you can simply select one in Data/Change view


You can then duplicate the view as shown in option A, or through Data/View options/Duplicate view.

Option C

You can create your own view directly in Data/Create filter view

Whichever option you pick, from there, you should be able to click on a column header down arrow

and access the full range of sorting and filtering options available. You can filter on as many columns as you want. The filters you apply are unique to you, and won’t be seen by other users, so you don’t risk breaking anything.


Previous event results and gallery

All previous event results in detail

Season 1 event results posts
Season 2 event results posts

Want to be featured in the gallery? Post a picture that illustrates the current challenge, tag me, and it might end up here.

#11 picture by pooshedpork
#12 #14 #24 #26 pictures by Operator1
#27 by opudalo1337

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If you want to support being able to take just one screenshot that shows everything you need to know to verify a time, check this

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Yes! Looking forward to the challenge. I’ll get on it this weekend.

Ran a 1.06.1 with a couple of laps in the 2000GT. I will try and improve a bit before posting a more formal time.

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I’ll certainly run a few laps over the weekend. I can see the official time posting method putting a lot of people off though.

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If someone is actually put off by it, I’d like to hear it and why. Maybe we can figure ways to make it easier.

Keep in mind though that my goal is zero manual entry on my end. I’ll be honest in advance, if I have to look through leaderboards and type in all the times and cars, I’m just not going to do it. Hence the self-reporting. I really tried to make it as easy as possible on the user within that constraint though.

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I will put a lap down for this

Never taken part in one of these so ran a few laps

PHLC#1
TIME#1:05.798
CAR#1668

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I tried the Camaro and the Mustang, but I had the most fun with the Datsun.
PHLC#1 CAR#2272 TIME#1:06.527

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I see 1.04.4 is the current time to beat. I’ve just about got into the 1.04s myself in the Toyota 2000 but another half second is beyond me.

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I’m close to a new pb

PHLC#1
TIME#1:03.679
CAR#343

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PHLC#1
TIME#1:08.991
CAR#326


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PHLC#1
TIME#1:03.709
CAR#343

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@AdmPatate i had the wrong car code in I fixed it on my original post above.

I thought it looked like the Z, but then I wasn’t sure what the 2000GT looked from inside.

PHLC#1
TIME#1:03.546
CAR#2272

PHLC#1
TIME#1:06.855
CAR#343


Tune definitely needs a change up, this was a quickly adjusted multiclass series tune for fun.

The Mustang will do a low 1:04, drives really nice too.

Nice :+1:
So far, I’ve hit 1:04.4 in my Datsun tune, but some of these Road Atlanta curbs are merciless.
I feel forced to take slower lines to avoid even slightly touching most of these curbs.
Any tips for making the car more stable over these curbs?
My springs, ARBs, & bump damping are already pretty soft.
Thanks