Paint Job Economy, info from FH3 players please

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Hi all, I’m new to the FH series and I’m very interested in doing paint jobs for vehicles. When I want to relax after a long day at work I’d rather do something slow rather than be testing my reflexes. I’ve seen from videos of FH3 that you get influence for people using them on their own vehicles once you have shared them so I have some questions.

Is the ability to share paint jobs available in FH4 and do you get influence for others using them?
Do you have any idea how much influence you typically get from this activity?
Are primitive shapes and decals unlocked or are they all available from day 1?
Is it possible to share just the decals I have created?
Can you ‘follow’ or subscribe to a particular player to see what paint jobs they have available?
Do paint jobs have a time limit for how long they are shared before needing to be re-posted?
Is there a limit on the number of paint jobs you can share and if so, can you increase that cap?
Can you browse through a player’s collection of paint jobs or are you limited to just seeing what is available for a car you own?
Is there a system whereby you can to an up-vote or like for a paint job even though you aren’t currently using it?
Are the devs planning on having featured paint jobs of the month based upon the number of people using them?
Can you privately share a paint job with another player? (ie. they’ve asked for a one-of-a-kind commissioned design)
Are there any copyright restrictions for what you make or is it all considered ‘fair use’?
Can you update or edit shared paint jobs or do you need to recreate it again if you want to make changes once it is published?

I think that covers all of my questions. :slight_smile:

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dont know bout 4 but is yes to most of that in 3 been trying tho find a full version stream showing the design editor but most are just parked showing us nothing kinda stupid really keen to see it asume most will remain the same.

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I’ve done a bit of painting here and there and will try to answer what I can.

Yes, you can share designs in FH4 and yes, you get influence from people downloading them and using them.
How much you earn I cannot tell you, I just shared a dozen or so designs last night and only have a handful of downloads yet. I’ll check it again later tonight when streaming.
All the stock shapes/fonts/decals are available from the moment you can enter the editor.
You can only share items that you’ve created entirely, whether that is entire designs or simple vinyl groups.
You can follow painters.
There is no time limit on sharing. An item shared will remain so until you unshare it.
No limit on the amount of designs/groups that can be shared that I’m aware of and to my knowledge, it’s never come up.
Not sure what you can see just yet by checking out painters you follow. Will have to check this tonight.
Ratings are now done by the system, not the players. As your design/group gets downloaded and used, its rating will go up.
There does appear to once again be a picked/featured category.
You can not share/gift privately.
All designs in Forza history have been considered Fair Use.
In order to edit a shared design/group, you’ll need to unshare, then edit and reshare.

Edit: I’ll be on streaming tonight and playing about in the editor as I try to refresh some old work and create some new.

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What is your name on mixer so I can find you? Is the editor a copy of how it is in FM7 now, with the flip command etc?

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All my answers are based on previous versions (most specifically FH3, but they should apply to 4 since they’ve been pretty consistent over the years
edit- just tarted reading about influence, didn’t know about that until now- sorry I can’t answer how the rewards will work that way

Is the ability to share paint jobs available in FH4 and do you get influence for others using them?
not sure about influence, you got in-game currency in previous games

Do you have any idea how much influence you typically get from this activity?
100 credits per sale, 500 per ‘like’, 200 per use (based on FH3)

Are primitive shapes and decals unlocked or are they all available from day 1?
Everything is available right off the bat. There are several pages of primitives and 11 different fonts. Here’s a place that some painters hope things change every game, but so far nope

Is it possible to share just the decals I have created?
Yes. The pay is the same as liveries

Can you ‘follow’ or subscribe to a particular player to see what paint jobs they have available?
Yes .

Do paint jobs have a time limit for how long they are shared before needing to be re-posted?
No, they stay shared once they’re posted. It seems to me there’s been a glitch or two where things got knocked down, but it isn’t very often.

Is there a limit on the number of paint jobs you can share and if so, can you increase that cap?
Yes, there’s a limit to how many you can share (I think it’s 300 in FH3, which is also the limit to the total number that you can have in your game period. Which is ridiculous because you can have over twice as many cars, so not even being able to have one on each car is kind of dumb. Also something we hope changes in each new game. Let’s keep our fingers crossed lol). edit- and no, you can’t increase it.

Can you browse through a player’s collection of paint jobs or are you limited to just seeing what is available for a car you own?
Each player has a ‘storefront’ in FH3, and I think you can browse other players’ storefronts, but I’m not 100% sure on that.

Is there a system whereby you can to an up-vote or like for a paint job even though you aren’t currently using it?
I think you can like them after you download them without actually having it in use, not 100% sure on that one either.

Are the devs planning on having featured paint jobs of the month based upon the number of people using them?
There are usually top-rated designs when you go into the paint section for specific cars. Plus, in the past they had contests where the winners would get top spots.

Can you privately share a paint job with another player? (ie. they’ve asked for a one-of-a-kind commissioned design)
Not really. I think the closest you can get is to share it then remove it after they get it.

Are there any copyright restrictions for what you make or is it all considered ‘fair use’?
Not copyright restrictions per se (since you can’t import anything and have to make them from the primitives) but they will drop the ban hammer for anything someone finds offensive (and I mean anything). Then you can get banned for a month first time and much longer (up to permanently) for future transgressions.

Can you update or edit shared paint jobs or do you need to recreate it again if you want to make changes once it is published?
You can update them, but when you re-share it the counts start over I believe.

Again, this is mostly based on previous experience, not knowledge about FH4 in particular. Most I’'m sure will stay consistent based on experience with previous titles.

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Thanks for all the info folks! Much appreciated.

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sorry I hadn’t read about influence before posting- I’m sure several of my answers will end up being entirely irrelevant lol.

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Don’t worry found you lol