I've never experienced oval racing with nascars + no upgrades in a full lobby...

How do i find this? :slight_smile:

Private racing or wait until Nascar division shows up in league racing.

NASCAR is barely covered in Forza. Licensing thing I suppose. PC/IRacing if you are serious about oval racing, or any racing for that matter. Spend the $$$ or arcade race and quit complaining. Nothing wrong with arcade it just depends if you want to play a video game or a sim game.