This. Even if they just address the issue by saying they’re aware of it I’ll be happy. At this point I’d be quite surprised if we never get a response considering how annoyed much of the community is. MotogamesTV’s ZR1 video for example also has many comments from people saying they’re dissapointed at the stock wheels and gauges.
The 924 bodykit in FM7 was something easier to sweep under the rug. Even then, T10 took the trouble to fix it (mostly), and that car wasn’t even “wrong”, it was unfinished. It’s as if the contracted party sent the car to T10 in that state hoping people wouldn’t notice.
I’ll give them sometime given the holidays, but I’m 100% with you that I’ll be happy if they say they are aware of it. At least acknowledge the mess up.
So what all is wrong with it then? The rims, Z06 logo above the boost gauge, wrong interior maybe? Hopefully this gets to 3 or 4 pages, that’s about when they noticed it for the 650S Spider.
I don’t see how the heck they expect to keep a good portion of their player base (car lovers) if they mess up so many cars. It’s embarrassing and quite frankly ridiculous for a 1st party developer.
FM7 and this game have completely turned me away from the series. I can confidently say I won’t be preordering the next game.
It’s just a shame that this is the level quality we’re getting on some of the cars at the moment. Prior to 2016, if somebody told me the Forza series would sink this low (focusing on unnecessary aspects of the game such as clothes and emotes over the vehicular content) I would’ve slapped them in the face. Horizon 4 barely even feels like a ‘true’ Forza game to me honestly.
If the wheels and badging are fixed I’ll regain some hope. But until then, I’m at rock bottom with the series.
I think there’s one more wrong Z06 badge in it but I’m not sure.
If you really want to split hairs, you can also add to the list the non-adjustable stock rear wing, but that’s a bug many other cars have.
People say it’s slow but the performance is just right, the C7’s chassis isn’t the best and the car has absurd acceleration at low speeds. With such high downforce, it just won’t reach very high speeds. The fact it can get to 190 mph very easily while the Viper struggles to make it to 175 shows just how powerful the ZR1 is.
But it doesn’t change how the chassis is terrible. At 1600 kg, it’s 75 kg heavier than an Aventador SVJ, which comes with a full AWD system. Quoted best run at the Ring was 6:57, which is still 10 seconds slower than the less powerful GT2 RS and beaten by the 520 bhp GT3 RS, as well as the 640 bhp Huracán Performante if you want to count that (I do) and obviously the aforementioned Aventador SVJ.
It actually drives much better in stock form than when upgraded with coilovers, etc., and it’s more realistic since Corvettes run on transverse leaf springs anyway. Stock tune with adjustable parts has it all over the place, sadly.
Uh, the ZR1 set the track record at Virginia International Raceway in January … and the ZR1, 720S, and new 911 GT2 have all 3 been breaking track record after track record as they’ve been tested together for the magazines. The ZR1 was 2nd, but all 3 beat everything that came before. Ford GT, Huracan Performante by seconds. The Ring is a very fast circuit and the ZR1 is more suited to the track, but lets not act like sub 7 minutes at The Ring is garbage. C’mon now. I’m not a Corvette fan at all and would probably sell a real one if someone gave me one … but it’s about as serious a production car as there is right now. The game messing up its look and making its stock tires be race tires limiting its upgrade ability, while lesser cars make X class, is pretty disrespectful.
This isn’t the only major inaccuracy in the game. I have noticed a number of rally cars don’t have off-road tires available. I started a thread a while back and although it hasn’t attracted as much attention as this one I know they will no doubt ignore it. Its a shame when such details although minor in the grand scheme of things are ignored because for many of us we enjoy cars and we want them to be a realistic as possible so when things like this happen you have to ask why.
Well, if you actually go into detail, the 2019 ZR1 was literally just made by the devs using a Z06, slapping semi slicks on claiming its stock wheels, then adding weight and horsepower values to mach without any aero changes. It’s literally just a Z06 with race tires and a cosmetic reskin. Both the C7 Z06 and C7 Zr1 have the same Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires, yet in forza the zr1 uses semi slicks by default. Switch the Z06 to the same tires rhe zr1 comes stock with and it has better handling and braking. They’re ignoring an entire 750lbs of downforce increase the Zr1 has over the Z06 while achieving less drag, and that proves that the in game zr1 is just a z06 with slicks and fake aero. Which sucks
Lmao no, this won’t get fixed. Not now, nor during this car’s appearance as paid DLC for Forza Motorsport 8. Cars born into the Forza series with defects tend to keep them for life, even if they go years and years without showing up again. Only a very tiny handful of cars have actually had themelves cleaned up (and the only one I can remember off the top of my head is the Ferrari F40, which received an entirely new model sometime between FM4 and FH2). Typically, we receive a less optimised (i.e. higher tri-count) version of the master model than what the older game got (which is why the recent DLC S2000 and Koenigsegg CC8s are so “off” proportionally, they are based on inaccurate models from over a decade ago)
I do remember the 918 wearing BBS style wheels in FH2, and then the weird looking wheels it normally has in each game afterwards. So you might still get lucky! But since all evidence points towards this car being built off of the ZO6, I would not hold my breath on it happening as a fix for this game. You’re just lucky a few aftermarket wheels look like the ones it’s supposed to have
Also, just to cut the devs some slack. Yall keep saying NO TRUE CAR GUY WOULD MISS THIS. I’ve been around cars my entire life, and I would never have ever noticed this if there wasn’t a thread about it. To me (a fairly typical person as far as “car guys” go), this is yet another Tarted up Corvette which looks almost the same as the last one, but now it’s got a natty wing on it to compensate even more for how decidedly average the C7 platform actually is. I love cars, I have a deep interest in them mechanically and know a lot about how they work. and I couldn’t tell you the first thing about this Corvette, or what makes it different from the other one other than the annual increase of numbers. Your car probably had the misfortune of being quality tested by someone like me, who is likewise never gonna be able to spot the differences between the 3 different current-gen Camaros we have, but who can at least tell you that they all function correctly in game and aren’t broken. They’re still car guys even if they care more about Evos or MGs than they do about Corvettes
Welp, looks like they’re fixing it guess you don’t have that inside line you thought you had. OEM wheels are important, the bodykit in the middle of a CRX is not (bodykits don’t belong on CRX’s anyway).
“how decidedly average the C7 platform actually is…” yeah I don’t know where you got this big helping of personal opinion from but it is false. Great that you’ve been around cars all your life (I think we all have, I mean horses as main mode of transport is done) but car nuts are nuts. I can tell you what all the wheels on an '89 Honda Prelude look like and which trim levels each corresponds to. This is useless knowledge clogging my brain but it’s there.
Whoever said (I think Night Driver) that being able to select from 2-3 different OEM options if available would be cool I agree. That is a great idea for a Horizon release. I prefer going with OEM than aftermarket.
Somebody mentioned Fortune Island “breaking the game.” I haven’t started that yet how is it breaking the game?
It’s nice that they offered Chevy’s low wing option for the ZR1 in place of the hideous tall wing. Do wish they’d make the low one adjustable since it is adjustable in real life (similar to other models that have adjustable OEM wings but you have to add the ugly 6 foot wing to adjust).
Well, the thing with the ZR1 is that it has the wheels entirely wrong. Most of the time the only incorrect details are smaller things, like textures or badges. In fact, the FH2 918 is proof that this could get fixed. In FH2 the 918 had the Weissach Package wheels, yet the model didn’t have the actual Weissach package (which IRL added extra aero parts). These were changed to the correct regular 918 wheels in FM6.
Nobody is saying you aren’t a car guy simply because you didn’t notice the wheels were wrong. And so what, you didn’t notice the wheels were wrong? Great for you. Many other people including myself immediately did and aren’t happy because the Forza series is supposed to pride itself on their high levels of detail. The developers don’t deserve to be cut some slack here. If CSR2, a mobile game can get the wheels right then a triple-A developer can fix them.
Yes, I, and many other people who care about accuracy and the Forza Series understand that many issues often aren’t fixed, but this IS just too big of an issue. The wheels are an extremely important and defining element of the design of the car.
swing, and a miss. The post is not about me, mate, my point is that you lot are all saying that the dev team must not know anything about anything because they missed an inconsequential detail on an inconsequential car. The reality is that, if anyone noticed it beforehand, they likely assumed most players would wind up changing the wheels anyway as they built the car up for S1, given that that is a function the game has (the idea of them noticing beforehand seems unlikely though)
Furthermore, while it might seem like a “big” issue to you, the fact that you have made it through more than ten Forza games and this is the first wrong car you’ve noticed, says it’s not as big of an issue to you as you are claiming. Plenty of cars have offences far worse than this, and have held them through multiple games (and indeed even multiple cycles of fans moaning about how bad they are, like the R32 Skyline and the S2000 I mentioned before). There are cars whose engines sound entirely wrong. There are cars who are a bizarre Frankenstein Monster of JDM /USDM details because most of the time these lads just couldn’t be bothered. The later-gen CRX has bodykits for the front and rear, but nothing in the middle where it should have. The S15 silvia comes permanently scarred with some god awful Bomex skirt because somebody lost track of the default one. The WHEELS being wrong in a game where you can fix that yourself, doesn’t need a 3 page thread
This must be the first inaccuracy you have ever found in a game, and for that I’m truly sorry, but that wasn’t even the first wrong car this month lol
Let us make no mistake… This is a franchise that has used every hyperbolic word in the book to describe their attention to details, via PR material and on retail packaging. I’d suggest running through the back catalog of games and reading how braggadocios their claims of HD accuracy are… Cause who better than them to tell us? This is a stupid failure, by somebody or somebodies. Each car should have to go through a review cycle before its ready for the game. Now a car that was unveiled in November of 2017, and has only been seen with one style of wheels in production form (in 4 available finishes as has been explained)… It’s complete ignorance.
“Cut some slack”… We’ve cut slack, that’s why we have the back log of cars we’ve got that need a second or third going over. This isn’t an indictment on anything but a failure to get the basics right. There is a hierarchy of getting things right. The dashboard being a nitpick but still needing to be correct regardless of how small. The ultimate failure of this hierarchy is getting the specifically designed wheels wrong on this particular vehicle.
Surely there are those who say the following… “it’s not the end of the World” or “there are more important things to worry about in the World”… I love hearing that every time someone voices a concern or issue with a product they paid for. Some of us didn’t skimp and get the game via “Game Pass”, we paid $100 for the Ultimate Edition. There are expectations to be met, even if we’ve been let down a few times before on this very problem. So to those claiming there are more important things to worry about? You can go save the World, just like we all know you can do. We proud “whiners” and “complainers”? We’ll stay in our lane and keep to what we know… Trying to get these cars the rightful respect they deserve…