I mean since you added avatars to the game the defaults are kind of a joke. I have so many wasted wheel spin rewards on stuff I will never use
We need more realistic card culture option’s like
Rockabilly
mullets
tattoos
beards
ect.
plus size ect
While I dont mind the inclusion, this is one of the main things ppl complain about… dont feed this mechanic in particular, come on, the game has better things to improve, most of the players if not all of them dont care at all about the avatars, the clothes, dances or anything related to them. Maybe you, but majority wants a racing game, and we know that avatars are a waste of time, filling rewards to add on the seasons.
Really? I’ve only seen a handfull of people complain about driver characters over the last 3 Horizon games. It hardly qualifies as “one of the main things…”.
This is true, but people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with any element of the game.
Wow…so you can speak for millions of players and know what they all want? That’s a bit arrogant, don’t you think? PG/T10 would not have wasted money and resources on player characters if “most” people didn’t care about them. Obviously, at least some people care enough about avatars and clothes to come in here and ask for more variety. It’s bloody ridiculous for you to come in here and tell someone that they are wrong for doing so.
There you go again, assuming that you know what the majority of players want. Have you surveyed all of them? I’m guessing not. Even if you go by the people who post on this forum, that is still only a small fraction of the total number of people who play Forza.
Basically this…you do not speak for the entire Forza community, and you cannot claim to know what they all want or don’t want, so don’t even try. If you personally don’t care for those aspects of the game, then that’s fine, but don’t try to project your preferences on everyone else.
To the OP, I agree with you. I’d also love to see some more variety in the player characters, especially when PG/T10 makes such a point of “inclusiveness”. I have noticed though, that while we have a bit more variety in our driver characters (at least when it comes to hairstyles), we actually have about 50% FEWER clothing options than we did in FH4. I mean, the NPC spectators are better dressed than we can be. The character models also look worse than they did even in FH3.
Yeah, those were assumptions, but I did read enough complains about it, here, on reddit, youtube and twitter to say that with confidence. Its a pice of content that even if you like it, you dont use that much compared to the rest. you hardly see your character unless is on the cinematics and those are a few, and this game compared to the previous one, is a lot more short, you end the story pretty fast, same with yellow story star missions. And after that? what? Could be perfectly a generic character…
Never denied that there is ppl interested on it, but Im really sure is not the majority, and so trying to “improve” or add more content to that is to me a waste of time, when you can see already with your own eyes, there are better things to improve on the game, forum is crowded with complains.
Try to see the big picture here, no one is complaining about characters but those are the main content to maintain clothes, if there is no character we can delete them. Those were one of the complains on FH4 wheelspins. ““This is true, but people have the right to express their dissatisfaction with any element of the game.”” so do I about others opinions 
How many comments have you read when compared to the total number of people who play any of the Horizon games where you have these features? Even if you have seen 1000 comments about this, that only represents about 1/1000% of the total number of players, and that’s being generous, so you can’t make blanket statements “with confidence” in any way whatsoever. I’ve seen this happen far too many times to not understand this is just people projecting their own preferences on to everyone else in order to justify criticisms against something.
If you don’t care what your character looks like, that’s fine, but there are others that do…and I suspect it is far more people than you are willing to admit.
Of course it isn’t the majority, but then again, maybe it is. Like I said, you haven’t read comments by, or spoken to, any more than a fraction of the total number of people who play any of the last 3 Horizon titles. Even if it isn’t a majority of players, does that mean what they want isn’t important and should be placed at the bottom of the roster for PG to look at? Keep in mind that the OP simply stated what he/she would like to see in the game. Nothing was said about making that a priority ahead of the issues that actually prevent the game from functioning as it should.
Trust me, I’m not thrilled about getting emotes and car horns in wheelspins either, but unless PG decides to remove clothing/emotes/horns from wheelspins altogether, it’s just something we all have to deal with. It all comes down to one thing…if you don’t care about your drivatar, then just ignore those items and move on, but don’t begrudge people who actually want those things in the game.
My primary complaint is that, if PG/T10 is going to have a character creator and clothing in the game, then they need to do it right, especially when they made such a big deal about it this time. The character models are worse than they were in both previous Horizon games, the hairstyles are boring, the clothing options are far less extensive than they were in FH4 (yes, I miss my chainmail miniskirt), and we get prosthetics but no body size options? That’s hardly inclusive, or even very interesting. Still, I am big on immersive games, so I’ll do what I can with what we’ve been given, and yes, I’ll complain about it if I’m not satisfied.
Lets say enough… just with one coment on one video (from lots of them) or tweets or posts, and more than 2k likes is enough to see it. And I saw this kind of comments since FH4, ppl dont want it, character and clothing is the same pack, of course you could argue too that there is ppl interested, but I’ve seen so far a lot of more ppl not interested, and thats enough for me to state that majority is not interested.
PG/T10 will not waste more money to improve something that is just to fill the rewards, why spend time and money to improve the creation character when players will use it only on the first minutes of the game, I can asure you that from 100h played ppl will touch that feature like 20 minutes max, to me is a waste of time, no matter how much you want to twist the argument
Then you have no clue about sample size in studies…you know, those little things in science where people try to actually find facts rather than opinions? Do the maths yourself. You haven’t met, talked to, or read comments written by 99.9% of all Forza Horizon players in the world, so again, you have no bloody clue what they all want or what they are interested in, certainly not nearly enough to to say that “most” or “all” Forza players don’t care at all about their character. Unless you have access to the demographics of the last 3 games, you can’t “assure” me of anything, other than you are just expressing your OWN personal opinion here, and justifying it by assuming that “most” or “all” other Forza players feel the same way about it as you do.
Come back to me when you have chatted with at least 7 million players, and THEN I might give your claims a bit more consideration.
Even so, I still don’t see anything that contradicts what I said, so you dont have the data either, right?. And yes to me and MY personal opinion, what I saw in the form of coments and likes and how the community speaks about the game in the internet, is more than enough to, again imo, throw to the trash can the excuse of character customization, cloth, dances and emotes that are used actively on the game like 1% and give us real and usable content for a racing game, this its not fortnite, or at least it shouldnt.
Because again, IMO most of the ppl dont use it (based on what I saw on internet from small to big communities that can be extrapolated to all players, the same way you can do it with a poll), dont like it¿?? come here then when you have the data that says the contrary and that more than 50% of the community wants dances, emotes and cloth on the game and want that content to be improved and I will close my mouth and I will agree with you 100%, till then, you can disagree with my opinion all you want, its not gonna change. Same prob with yours right? So end of discussion :).
EDIT: Now thinking… at least FH4 showed your character a lot more, like in online races befor the race, rn we have more char customization but we only see them where¿? on loading screen? cutscenes that everyone wants to skip? Yeah, Im sure there is a lot of players interested on this. If characters had some use out of cutscenes ok, but they dont, most of the time your driver is inside the car and you cant barely see it.
True, most players want a racing game, but we don’t even get that. We get leaderboards full of cheats and online racing full of angry kids on overpowered cars they can’t drive smashing into us. We get AI that ram us, never have to abide by the same physics we do, so why can’t we have overweight women with beards? We can certainly have skinny dudes in dresses because that is what everyone wants, they don’t care about racing, so let’s go full on woke and bring in the plus sized bearded women for full representation.
I’m a skinny dude with a beard, but this game refuses to allow me to represent myself, they would rather I represent something I’m not, and that is in no way, shape or form all inclusive.
I do sort of agree, while I would rather it didn’t exist at all at the same time I think if this feature is here to stay (which it is) why is it done so half heartedly? The character creator is a joke, FIFA games in the 2000’s could do better.
People got moaned at in the start of FH4’s life for suggesting it’s only there to accommodate more fluff in wheelspins, when you see how poor it was in 4 and the minimal improvement to it in 5 then what other answer is there? If the feature itself actually mattered to PG we’d have got a proper character creator this time around.
I’m personally hoping for a sweet Nehru jacket and pants set and some white loafers so I can pair them up with the space suit helmet and the prosthetic black hands and become…Dr. No.
i think dances, clothes and emotes are a waste of wheelspins its stuff that i will never use and yeah the character creator is quite a joke with all the models being creepy
They look pretty good, for 1998… trouble is it’s 2021. I’m sure whoever did it tried their best, but they could do with hiring someone with more talent. Could be seen as a harsh comment, but… they look like they belong in a Resident Evil game.
I just bought all clothes so they don’t appear in wheelspins 
That’s a really smart move! 
Talking of the Luchador has anyone noticed that the wrestler outfits will grow your legs back!
If you give your character prosthetic legs, then put a wrestler outfit on they’ll grow their legs back!
I agree and honestly thats the point super wheelspin getting a gold dress, wrist watch and 5k, So someone at Playground feels its important to include it.I mean If its here I would like my driver to look like me.
I agree its not a main feature of the game. Just makes you fell if you are not under 160 pounds your avatar does not belong at the festival… Something to think about. Just because you don’t think it matters doesnt me it doesnt.
Nothing like completing the Goliath and getting a common face mask, pair of shoes, or a dang sundress as a prize from the wheel spin. Worst part of the game IMO, I’d rather have the game crash and redo the race than get clothing on my spin. It’s a racing game, not dress up, the avatar aspect could totally be dialed back…again just my opinion.
No men has beards and all Brits are from London.
If I must hail from the Isles, can I sound like a Mancunian, Glaswegian or Irishman, please?
Clothing in this game is generally horrible and a waste. To the point I actually made a female Drivatar for a while and, boy, was she a stunner! The Raúl Arias dress is beautiful. Still, since there’s no cleavage, not even subtle, due to the parental rating and maybe other reasons, dresses are also pretty much the only clothing that looks good on females, apart from outfits like the racing overalls.
TBF, if base product - you know racing game and stuff about it - would be good and working, it wouldn’t be such a problem. Sure, there would be still people complaining about it, but I’m pretty sure it would be much less problem.