Hey everyone! I’ve been away from the Forza series since 5 but now I’m back in with 7 and I’m loving it so far! I just bought the G920 with the optional shifter and I SUCK LOL!!! I don’t really get how to use the clutch and change gears smoothly and quickly.
Now in real life I ride a motorcycle everyday so I understand how a clutch and manual transmission work but I can’t get this. I’ve watched some tutorial videos online on how to drive a manual car and they are somewhat helpful but not 100% because I know driving in forza is different than real life.
If anyone could give me some helpful tips on what/how to practice, foot positioning, timing that would be great. Or point me in the direction of a YouTube video. I couldn’t find any forza specific videos on how to shift with a wheel and stick setup.
I don’t have a steering wheel but I can tell you with the controller shifting is very slow. I also have a motorcycle and owned plenty of manual cars so I know how to shift. Maybe there is something in the settings we’re both missing and someone can tell us both what we’re doing wrong. I do plan on buying a steering wheel soon as well.
Yea man I totally agree! I do think it’s something we are doing wrong because I’ve seen video of people like Ialyrn absolutely ripping with a manual clutch setup and wheel so I’m like what am I doing wrong lol?
Thank you for the compliment about my driving on a wheel
When it comes to using manual with clutch on a wheel in Forza along side a H gated shifter, it is all about learning the timing. Try to concentrate on learning how long you need to hold the clutch in for the gear change to take place, keep in mind that the time needed to hold the clutch in, will decrease depending on which gearbox and clutch you have installed on the car. Try not to worry too much about heal/toe till you get used to just shifting. If you try to learn too much at once, it will just give you more points of failure. Once you pick it up, it soon gets ingrained in your muscle memory.
Using manual gears is kind of second nature to me, as I learnt to drive a real car with a manual box here in the UK; as I wanted an unrestricted Cat B driving license for cars. If you learn to drive in an automatic car and pass your test in it, then you can not legally drive a car with manual gears on the public road here in the UK. Although the feel from the logitech shifter is not like a real cars, the movement of changing the gears themselves remains the same.
Thank you for the compliment about my driving on a wheel
When it comes to using manual with clutch on a wheel in Forza along side a H gated shifter, it is all about learning the timing. Try to concentrate on learning how long you need to hold the clutch in for the gear change to take place, keep in mind that the time needed to hold the clutch in, will decrease depending on which gearbox and clutch you have installed on the car. Try not to worry too much about heal/toe till you get used to just shifting. If you try to learn too much at once, it will just give you more points of failure. Once you pick it up, it soon gets ingrained in your muscle memory.
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NP! Thanks for the reply. That’s a great tip, because I was trying to learn shifting manually with a clutch and trying to teach myself how to heel toe at the same time. I’ll def stick to one at a time! Maybe I’ll see you out there one of theses days!
I havent gotten a wheel yet but irl, i know a lot of new people dont put the clutch all the way in. So make sure the clutch is 100% before attempting to change gears.
Learn on slow class d cars first and work your way up.
Some people have a habit of picking their left foot up as you would when switching between pedals with your right foot, and that often causes issues with learning to drive stick. What helped me learn in a real car was digging my left heel down to make it so I pivot my ankle instead of moving my entire leg - it allows for much more precise control. Then, I would leave it in 1st gear with the clutch all the way in, and I’d hold the throttle at about 2000-2500 RPM, and then I’d slowly let off the clutch (still with my heel down for control) until the RPMs dropped - that’ll be your “bite” point. From there, you can slowly apply throttle as you let off the clutch, and it should get you rolling.
That’s a rather basic step in learning stick, so I’m not sure if that’s what your looking for. Another good thing to keep in mind is that lower-end cars will have slower clutches, so you can’t just jam the throttle as soon as you’re off the clutch pedal and in gear. Also, heel-toe shifting is much tougher, and it’s particularly difficult on a G920 because of the way the pedals are oriented and shaped, but the payoffs are incredible once you learn it to stabilize your downshifts.
Plus heel and toe is really really fun, you feel like a Senna once you learn it and all goes well, if not, you tend to spin and crash in a straight line. =D
But honestly, take it slow, heel and toe is not mandarory, but it helps during the downshift. First just use your feet normally, right foot on the gas or brake, left only on the clutch. Just cruise around the track and practice. The more slowly you are willing to do it in the beginning, the greater results in the long run.
Once you master normal gear changes, you can practice heel and toe and especially left foot braking when the downshifts arent needed.
