So I’m going to do a complete (hopefully) commentary Let’s Play of FM6 on YouTube once I receive the game. However, I’m concerned if I’m going to have the same problems as I’ve experienced with Forza Motorsport 5.
That is, the music. Whenever I’ve uploaded a video of FM5 in the past, the music… mostly the menu music… gets a copyright claim from those turd-burglers known as INgrooves. Anyone who has uploaded FM5 footage may know all too well about this. This has forced me to mute ALL in-game music and then edit in some non-licensed music to help make it sound a little better.
Since the game isn’t out for another 11 days or so, I’m not sure anyone will have the answer, but… DOES anyone know if the music in FM6 (and even FM5) is copyright free and will NOT be claimed by INgrooves? I mean, I honestly do not know of the copyright status of the Forza music, and if INgrooves do legitimately own the music rights.
As much as I would like to keep the original music in all the videos, if there is even the slightest chance that INgrooves will hijack my videos, I’ll have no choice but to mute the in-game music, and decide whether or not to edit in some non-licensed music.
The music in the Forza series has been sold as an original soundtrack album as far back as Forza 3. That’s most likely the root of your copyright concerns.
That won’t change anything. Videos are scanned automatically for copyrighted music and if a match is found, the entire video is muted by default. No human involvement.
Hm, that makes sense. I knew that music released as a soundtrack would be licensed, but I didn’t realize that the Forza music was a soundtrack as well, other than Forza 4.
And yeah, giving credit where credits due isn’t enough. For the most part, you have to get actual written permission from the license holder, which according to my recent copyright claims, isn’t Turn 10 or Microsoft, but INgrooves (FYI, they never release a claim).
I uploaded a fm5 a while ago including music. I did get a copyright notice, but they monetized it. They didn’t mute the sound or anything.
Maybe that’s the new procedure now?
Obviously this will work, though it does make the footage a bit sterile. It’s also somewhat unfortunate when the majority of games can be broadcast with music and no issues.
It was me that muted the music, while I was editing the video. I then just place non-copyrighted music over the muted parts, so at least there’s something to listen to and not just my annoying voice. Although, I never know which piece of music will get a claim until I upload it. For some reason, Part 1 of my series went without a claim despite having the same music. Parts 2 and 3 were claimed for the same music that was present in Part 1… it’s kinda odd.
I’m gonna have to do that form now on, which sucks since I hate having to change how a game is, but what can you do? Like I said above, during the menu and racing, I just add non-copyright music just so you have something to listen to.
That’s what I’m doing now. I’ve turned off all Race and Menu music, and just having the sound effects. My editing software doesn’t have any music, so I’m using copyright-free video game music. Sucks that I;d probably have to do this with Forza 6, ruining the experience for myself and those that watch the videos, but there’s not much else you can do. I’ll just have to make sure to use decent music, haha.
My recent Forza 6 videos have been hit with copyright claims by INgrooves, both in the menu music and in the in-game racing music (but mostly the former). Until now, I’ve been successful with YouTube’s song removal method, but one of my latest videos had two sections under copyright and both failed to be removed. From herein, I have to disable the audio.
It’s too bad. The soundtrack is amazing. The songs are beautiful and help the videos. And I would argue (and very likely be correct) that they do not hurt sales of the OST, but rather increase it. Now all of my viewers will not get a taste of this beautiful soundtrack. Too bad.
I contacted the actual composers – when I thought the copyright claims were a mistake! – and they were very nice about looking into and explaining how it worked. I do not wish to speak for them, but it felt as though they were not behind the INgrooves system. It felt as though it was beyond their control. Surely you more prominent YouTubers know more about this stuff than I do.