i dont want to get involved in a big fight here. i found a b class tune by raceboy77 for the 98 supra on spa night. his tire temps in his replay are spread 3* inner, middle, outer just like someone else in this thread suggested they should be. he is running 30lbs tire pressure front and 29lbs rear if i remember correctly and -1 camber front and -3 rear. i wish i could tune tire temps as well as him and you other pros because that was very impressive.
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“he is running 30lbs tire pressure front and 29lbs rear if i remember correctly and -1 camber front and -3 rear.”
That sounds very close to if not default on the front. That would be expected if the tune was “downloaded and saved” and the installed later. When you do this the front settings remain default. The only way to load a locked tune correctly is to “download and install”.
I mentioned this in the support thread, so I guess a fix is coming.
This is happening quite often. I got pinged by a couple of folks asking me about my tune settings and quickly realized that they did not have the correct ones at all…so, I asked them to re-download and install right away. They did so, and bingo!..then they informed me that I had changed them…lol…
@ FOOT – maybe we should make your thread a sticky within this Tuner’s Garage area so folks can see it right away. Can a moderator HELP!!! Thanks!
PRKId
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Yes, it is the exact same bug that was in FM5 and it took about 4 months for them to fix it. Most people won’t notice because they don’t check the telemetry and the car still drives pretty good.
I immediately noticed it because I rarely download locked tunes but when I do I start checking everything out.
I dl’d the tune bought the car then installed the tune. Jumped on to catalunya to look at the telemetry.
I know in prior forza games there have been errors in replay telemetry and I am new to forza 6 and do not know what is working and not working in fm6. So I apologize if I posted anything in error. Kind regards.
All of that and you still missed the point. You can set the psi at 15 or 55, and the center will still be between or the same as the inner and outer.
That’s it. I’ve done the test. Anybody can try it.
So you really think I don’t look at the telemetry? Who do you think discovered the tuning loading bug AGAIN by looking at the telemetry.
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I’ll give you an example…
I tuned my Lambo and the rear temps were something like:
213 / 210 / 208 … 208 / 210 / 213
When I changed my pressure to something like 24.5 psi
The difference between the inner and centre and the centre and outer was now the same, so it made a difference and worked!
And on top of this, the car had more grip and I was pulling faster times.
Don’t give two shizzels about whether you changed it to 15 or 55 and the centre temp was still “between or the same as the inner and outer” tyre temps.
All I care about is that the differnce between the inner and Centre Temp is the same as the difference between the Centre Temp and Outer Temp
END OF!
And your giving the telemetry so much grief. Why are you trusting it with the loading bug?
And you think I care if you discovered it? You want a cookie? A Golden Star? Big woop, you should become a gaming detective!
RR
*you’re
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Also, *whoop
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Nice to see the Forza forums are as friendly as ever…
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my small insight. don’t hate me.
high camber was spawned from understeering 4wd
subarus and the like of on forza 5 and passed over to
the rwd with the aid of tcs.
Now forza 6 genericly hates high camber and to an
extent it does not work as well. this does not mean its
impossible to make it work or that it can’t work.
i find 6 really punishes time scrubbed in the corners
with high settings. eg cam arb and springs.
So the camber is not like IRL in this game? IRL a car thats setup for the street can easily run -3 front/-2 rear, and thats close to what I set my tunes up to be (usually as much as -3.5/-2.5 and the cars feel great/fast for me?
Correct! In game is not like real life. I run anywhere from -2.5 to -1
The tire pressure adjustments along with the camber is really something else in this game. Like RPM Swerve said above: I’m not sure if there is a good temperature benchmark in this game. However 32-33 psi when warmed usually feels pretty good. I agree with this and then you tune a front wheel drive car. The rears naturally stay ice cold and then you lose the rear.
In the end just do this: Tune, test, learn, get feedback and repeat. Also if anyone new reads through this thread you will see that there are some veteran tuners in here. They have alos given out a lot of their fast tuning tricks regarding the subject of camber and tire pressures. For example: Make sure that your tire temps stay pretty even across the tire.
Apologies for the necrobump but I felt it better to post here than in a new thread.
While doing my first “serious” tune tonight I discovered something interesting.
In previous games when I did Camber tuning I primarily based my final numbers on tyre heat, having the insides about 5-10 degrees warmer than the outsides.
While trying that method tonight I noticed that initially my values were near even with stock settings. Adding more negative camber should have caused a greater temperature shift, but at the end of my next session I noticed the temperatures were pretty much identical to before despite changing by 1.5 degrees.
Instead, I’ve now decided to tune my Camber based on how the outside tyres behave mid-corner, attempting to get them as close to 0.0 under load as possible without going over. Personally I don’t like to spend too much time on camber tuning as I can barely feel the differences but this looks to be how I’ll approach Camber tuning in the future.
Granted, it could be a side effect of the specific car I was using (BMW Z4 GTE) but I figured I’d share my thoughts nonetheless.