I’ve learned the most from racing with faster drivers who were kind enough to invite me. Then racing in Rivals against some the ghosts of the fast guys and watching their replays learn you a lot about breaking points, racing lines and throttle control. Then there’s some very good videos on YouTube posted by some of the very skilled and fast drivers like Raceboy77, I Super GT I and others who gave good tips on breaking, racing lines, controller settings and many more. If you spend some time with these you will surely improve. And don’t be shy to race with other’s in MP - it will help a lot on both driving skills and getting racing experience (how to overtake, fair racing tactics etc.). Also work on using manual gear shifting which will definitely improve your car control and lap times. Manual with clutch will even be better. Later you can also work on not using ABS as that would shave a further tenth or two from your lap times. AND then, arguably the most important of all - practice the things you learn and practice and practice and practice and practice and …
The only thing I can perhaps add is that you learn some basics of tuning too. Start with gearing, aero and perhaps breaking. This will teach you why a car behave in a certain way with a certain tune and you can improve your car on that. Once again there’s some good video footage on YouTube on tuning and you can find some very good advice in the Tuning section of this forum by some of the best tuners around.
This all will take time, but if you really, really want to improve, it sure will give good returns on your time investment.
I like I SUPER GT I and also AZZA 85 85 is a very under rated tuner whos builds are very stable and quick. Both have youtube channels. My gamer tag is rekkless619 on X1. I’ll post some of my tunes tonight in the marketplace. I have a great Ferrari 360CS build and a 911 GT3 build. Both verrry grippy and quick. Both for S class.
I started playing about 3 months ago and have never played a Forza game in my life. I remember taking my first corner and my car sliding off the track at 130 mph while everyone else glided along the brake line. I am now consistantly coming in top 3 in S class lobbys. I had to learn how to drive chasing rivals first. I never raced against the computer. You need to learn how to tune and you need to practice driving.
Before you guys go berating the guy who actually came here to hopefully get some tips and learn something as he genuinely wants to improve why dont you read his post. He stated that hes been racing online in the ghost racing league.
The best advice i can give is learn to drive manual with clutch, and spend time in rivals download the tunes of guys a few seconds faster than you and chase their ghost until you can beat them, rinse and repeat. I say download the tune they used that way you know theirs no variables and its all down to driving.
Practice, practice and practice some more. It could take months to get decent, it is not going to happen in a week. Turn the abs off, just do not push the trigger all the way in or you will lock up the wheels. Just like a regular car you do not slam on the brakes to slow down. Use the racing line as a guide only, do not follow it exactly, it will tell you to brake when you do no need to a lot. Really it is just practice and eventually it will come together. Good luck and do not give up. Try the ghost league, maybe not this week cause it is X but it will change Sunday and group you with people of a similar skill level. Intro C has some amazing drivers in it. They are not beginners. The less assists you use the better you will be, once you get used to the assists it will be harder and harder to turn them off. Since you are just starting with 6 don’t make the mistake a lot of us did.
I haven’t read any of the other replies so forgive me if I repeat anybody.
For me, my racing really turned a corner when I started using this forum and discovered the community bounty hunter rivals on FM4. I was racing just like you and I complained that I couldn’t get anywhere near the required times. Fortunatley the helpful people on here pushed me towards taking the following actions:-
Getting a decent community tune setup.
Going into rivals and loading a rival that is a good 4 or five seconds faster than you and copying their line and braking pattern until you beat them. It might seem boring but it is so effective at improving your line and smoothness. (I’m pretty sure that you can copy your rival’s tune by clicking on them in the leaderboard if you want, then use the same car.)
What you will have to do is use a manual gear box and remove those assists, because they will totally bog down a C,B,or A class car. You definitely don’t need traction or stability control for anything other than learning S and R class basics. (get your racing line down to braking only too.)
It’s awful at first, then you’ll start reaping the rewards and putting in real decent lap times and actually passing people in races.
And don’t stop racing online. It’s really hard at the back with all the nutters, but keep racing and don’t under any circumstances get involved in the fighting back there. Just keep going, prioritize staying on the track over anything else and just pick your way through them as they fool around in and out of the gravel. You’ll soon find yourself racing in a the mid pack (with all the other clean racers).
no one is berating him. I think what we have here is sound advice. He doesn’t have to take it if he does not want to. If you do go online and hit someone just send an apology and that you are a beginner. I think most seasoned racers will understand. There will be trolls just trying to wreck people anyway so it isn’t like you are going to cause absolute mayhem. Just take it easy. If you feel you cannot pass cleanly, hold back until a better opportunity arises. Try not to cut into someone else’s line, if you see them in a turn don’t just cut in front of them and leave them no where to go , and I don’t mean the braking line. The line they are taking around the track. You need to anticipate what they will do, give it time you will get better. Good luck. Raceboy77 has some great tips videos on youtube such as this one Clean Racing (Forza Tips) - YouTube. As for practice in career, the drivatars don’t drive like any normal person. All they do is try and block you over and over. It just does not translate well into online racing against people. I’m not saying it is a bad idea, I think you can learn a lot. It will certainly help you get to know the tracks.
You can’t beat the real versions of the drivers if you can’t beat the drivatars.
I beat unbeatable in career but when racing leagues in elite division I finish top 5 top 10 n only manage a win on the odd occasion. …now of course damage n wreckers have a massive say in all league race results but my point is I can kill the AI but not their real life versions.
Learn how to beat the AI n you stand a better chance at the real life versions is the point I am making.
Mate you can’t just buy a game like this and expect to be fast in a few weeks.Find a mentor somebody fast learn from them.Also depending on how serious you are at getting fast turn off all assists braking line etc and turn on simulation steering learning the hard way is the best way.
Join our group…We excel at helping others and teaching. It is a great group to hang out with. Contact me through this site or on XBOX 1. My gamer tag is DLAK1150. We are a whole group that are or were int he same boat you are in and having a ton of fun. You must have a mic to communicate with. Also see my post looking for new members that I just posted today to get a better idea who we are. Hope to hear from you.
I’ll jump in this nice little helpful bandwagon - feel free to add me, I am already teaching a few people to race! GT is same as forum name, Cody Ghastface.
As said above, rivals is your friend. Running practice laps in there really can cause you to shave seconds off your lap times, even when you think you can’t go faster. I personally like to look at the best laps in every online race that I do in order to find a good benchmark as to how fast I am going compared to others, and is something I highly recommend you do as well; your pace is the overall skeleton that you build your racing skills on.
The ABS and the TCS in Forza appear intentionally programmed to be overly intrusive (even more than they would be in real life), in order to give drivers an incentive to not use them. Same with automatic as well. This makes driving without assists a must if you really do want to be as good as you potentially can be. Super GT is who I personally like to watch as he has some very high quality guides on these matters.
Forza 6 Traction Control & Stability Assist Off Guide (Tips & Tricks) - YouTube
Same story with the racing line as well. It is overly conservative in order to give drivers an incentive to run without it, so following it exactly will only limit how fast you can actually go. There ARE some fast people who still use the braking line for consistency purposes, but even they will ignore it half the time. The important thing is this case is looking for braking points; visual cues that drivers use to figure out when to brake. These can range from signs, to random shadows on the ground, and finding these comes with experience and practice.
This may seem like a lot, but just learn one thing at a time. A lot of this stuff will probably end up clicking with you faster than you think. You can also add me on XBox as well; M Rossi Jr, I’m always looking for some more buddies to race with.
Driving lower grip cars will help you learn car control, and how to rotate a car on the throttle, as well as the slow in fast out corner application. I find high grip cars have less adjustability, and somewhat dictate your driving style. Where lower grip, higher accelerating cars allow you to recover from mistakes, down even the shortest of straights. Oh, practice practice and more practice.
Totally disagree with turning off all the assists if you’re that much of a beginner.
If you learn how to get around the tracks quickly - taking good lines, braking and accelerating at optimum points, understanding weight transfer, etc - with ABS, TCS, Auto gears and the line turned on then turning them off later will give you a small increase in performance just when you’re looking for a few tenths. If you turn them all off straight away you’ll probably never reach the point where you’re fast enough to appreciate the difference.
There are plenty of fast drivers who use some or even all of those assists. TCS is common in the higher divisions. ABS and Auto gears are less common but not unheard-of. Only a vanishingly small number of players always play with the line off.
