Why isn't anyone talking about this: dull looking and bright orange brake lights?

[EpicEvan777]

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@NumberlessMath

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Apparently this topic is also being discussed in another thread, but to recap it appears as though the game is incorrectly outputting HDR content to SDR screens for some assets. That would make a lot of sense since we’re both using SDR screens and the other person claiming correct taillight colors is using a calibrated HDR screen.

His screenshots show yellow brake lights too.

Yup, they are indeed yellow. If I’m not misinterpreting what @EpicEvan777 was saying, the in-game colors look “correct” per his HDR TV:

@EpicEvan777

@opencamswrx

Hey Evan, thanks a lot! I just wanted to see the brake lights and nothing else.

Aaaand… there’s the trouble - I see the brake lights on your P1 are orange, not red! They need to be blood red with a nice glow/halo around them - like FM5 and 6, and real life, really.
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Are you also seeing orange lights on your P1 photos, instead for a nice “glowy” red?

On my TV, both are the brake lights and the reflection is red. There’s a slight difference between the color of the two but that’s something you’d expect with the refraction of the light and color on a wet surface. I’ll take a few more pictures showing the difference between the standard HDR calibration and my HDR calibration so you can see the difference.

I’m guessing that his screenshots are showing yellow taillights because it was meant to be viewed on his HDR TV. I think that’s what he was implying by the following comment:

@EpicEvan777

Unfortunately it looks like Forza converts all images back to SDR no matter what, so I’ll see if an Xbox screenshot captures it in HDR

I’m not really sure, but that’s my interpretation of it. Anyway, this thread should probably be merged with that other one to keep things tidy.

Yes you’re completely correct. Unless you’re viewing it on a professionally calibrated 4K HDR TV, the pictures I post won’t show anything because you’re viewing it in SDR.

For example, looking at the pictures on my phone which is SDR looks different to looking at them on my TV which is expected. So unfortunately, unless you guys get your hands on a professionally calibrated 4K HDR screen to view the pictures on there’s nothing I can do to actually show the true difference.

If people remember, this was a problem with Forza 7’s gameplay reveal as well. A lot of people complained the game looked washed out when it was just YouTubes HDR to SDR conversion. If anyone remembers that, it’s essentially the exact same thing that’s happening here.