Why are some gamers such bad losers?

First of all this person picks a leader board car second he burns out his clutch because he doesn’t know how to shift. Sure he would have won if I allowed damage off so he could push the car faster than it’s supposed to go but what would that make me? I feel no sympathy for those gamers who like to manipulate the game in their favor. How hard is it to check the game setup and difficulty and back out if it doesn’t work with how someone plays the game. Not hard at all. I set up a lobby to weed out these types of gamers and acceptable for people who like real world simulation racing. No arcade racing here! I’ll just put this out there. Losing is not a big deal to me but if someone joins my lobby they better be ready and know how to race.

My rep on xbox live has gone down solely because of this game.

Throw down 86k points per lap on Maple Valley full and suddenly you are a modder.

Thanks Turn 10.

ill respond to both comments first for the racing ego gets in the way I agree its not difficult to read the restrictions I run various events that use either sim or limited damage and we have a great time running and if a racer cant accept that they can go find another lobby to run in no arguing no complaining no making fun of others driving 2nd drifting can be subjective 86k can be done at maple as I have pulled down nearly 70k with a prius sounds to me like you both are not running with the right guys as there too many guys who think they can drive and they find out that driving against ai and online are drasticley different guys need to remember its only a game

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You’re mistaken if you think setting the lobby to sim damage will help you. Power shifting (not letting off the throttle while upshifting) does not damage the car. Gearing down too quickly will cause damage, though. This is very easy to prevent by simply gearing down slowly but it would appear the guy you’re talking about did not know this. Anyhow, people don’t like losing.

My reputation has fallen allot for being a pro on Horizon. It was at 90%, and it went down to 55% in three months! I asked my friends list to prefer me cause I was scared of being banned. Ouf…

Now, why are some gamers such bad losers? Because allot play to win. It’s in their caracter. Their will. What they want to do.

I have noticed this also while playing Horizon: Gold 50’s, in general, play to win. I once crushed his time on Infected and he reported me and sent me 3 15-second vocal messages of him swearing! He also avoided me.

the guy I’m talking about did also send me a tone of text messages trying to have me join a lobby he created to prove his point. I’ve raced in the common lobbies and was left behind by those hot lap junkies, and was the reason I created my own public lobby trying to level the playing field.

Maybe his/her tunes weren’t suited for full simulation.

Yes I understand that should check restrictions before racing but sometimes you just don’t think about it when you finally see that track and car class combo you’ve been looking for or everyone is rushing you to pick a car so they can start and you don’t have time to check. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone into drag lobbies and been laughed at, told I need to learn to drive, that I was slow, and to get better tunes simply because I asked the host to make it so I could drive just manual if I needed to because that’s how I tune some of my cars, take my colt for example that thing barley runs 9.2 second on test track when I have to use manual with clutch but let me use just manual and it will run 8.7’s-8.850’s all day long.

Now I’m not saying it’s ok for the person to go full nuclear on you for not supporting his/her driving style I’m just saying that some people are faster when they can use the tune as it was intended.

I try to set up my lobby and cater to the skilled drivers who know how to race. If someone needs a faster car than their opponent they are lacking in skill. For me the car is just a tool to race.

Ok now I’m a little confused. Are you saying the person was mad because they couldn’t pick the car they wanted because of car restrictions or they were mad because of game restrictions but could still use any car they wanted?

If it’s the first one well then I fully agree that the person is just being a cry baby/ sore loser and the person needs to find a room where they can use said car but if it’s the second one then I’ll stick with my original post about the tuning setup not working properly.

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No offence, but i really fail to see any logic here. Did you not say you were left behind in the common lobbies and thus imply the people racing there are more skilled than yourself? Yet you create your own lobbies to cater to the skilled drivers? Would not your own lobbies thus exclude yourself? Why would anyone willingly do this?

You should not assume everyone much faster than you is a “hot lap junkie”, or at least qualify this statement. Why does everyone faster than you have to be a hot lap junkie? I know many people that hate hot lapping yet can run with anyone. Also, if being a hot lap junkie is a prerequisite for being fast wouldn’t yourself doing a lot of hot lapping be the smart thing to do?

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Here’s my problem with making people run manual w/clutch. If you’ve never done it, you’re going to burn up the clutch and possibly the tranny.

And to your point about needing a faster car to win. Isn’t that the point of racing, having the fastest car and to win. If you restrict it to cars you are comfortable with, you are not the better driver, you are making guys race to your standards. I’m not the one who was crying about things in his lobby, it my opion. If you can’t race cars you’re comfortable in, then yes you are going to tear them up. You don’t know shift points, braking points, how hard you can push it in the corners. If you want to get better race better, faster people. Don’t make guys come back to what you feel is comfortable. Racers race on the edge, not in a comfort zone. That’s why there are time limits in endurance racing for drivers, so not to over exert yourself.

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He picked a leader board car and wanted to use manual shift. When someone creates a lobby they can only dictate what easiest tranny is allowed. I allow people to use what ever car they want and what ever tranny they want. I win and lose. Bigfoot, He had the option to use what ever tranny and what ever car. How does having a faster car make someone a better driver? Being the best driver in a lobby should win the race. Not a novice who has the fastest car. Races in the real world are run with cars that are equal but are tuned differently depending on the driver’s needs. So no having the fastest car isn’t the point of a race. Being the fastest driver is the point of a race. There are fast drivers and there are drivers who need fast cars. If you want big foot tell me where to find those races that you are referring to where someone is using a much faster car to win races. Is it on the speed channel NBC ABC ESPN CBS FOX? To be honest I’m a little embarrassed to admit this but I’ve never in my meager 43 years seen the type of race you are talking about.

Ok so you’re saying the only restriction you had on was sim damage? If that’s the case then I can somewhat agree with you because sim damage can be seen before you enter the lobby so they shouldn’t have went in there to begin with but on the point of begin fast or not I still stick with what i’ve said.

Tunes in Forza already change slightly once you get online and let me tell you tuning a car without sim damage on and then going into a online room with it on and trying to use that same car is a nightmare well unless your drifting

Then I stand corrected on the lobby set up. I thought you set it to manual w/clutch only. I agree, who ever that was is a cry baby.

Now to the point of winning in a faster car. Formula one for instance. Mercedes have the best car by far. Many of the drivers have said put in that cat and I’ll win every race. Up until this year the Audi R18 E-Torn was by far the dominate car. I could probably win in that thing. This year Toyota and Porsche have caught them. WTTC the Chevy Cruze was the car to be in until they pulled out. Now alot of racing organizations have implemented balance and power restrictions.

I will also pick a car that is comparable or less to the car being used by another driver. Just to keep it as fair as possible.

Why is this a topic?

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Hey look, another thread which states “hey this person doesn’t drive my style/car/line/difficulties, they must be bad/cheaters/sore losers” Anyone better must be a cheater and anyone worse is a noob. As far as I can see the only one here that is complaining and being a sore loser is OP.

I too can create a lobby which limits cars to a specific HP, weight, difficulties, even force the view, but I don’t. I let people race with what they know and if they are better, so be it.

KOGA, your mindset is a perfect example of what is wrong with the forza community, don’t create public lobbies and expect everyone to drive like you. Stick to your club or group of friends. Tired of seeing you post complaints of others actions which are clearly a result of your own madness.

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I really agree with you. I used to be a bad loser, but at least I didn’t sign in to say I hate losing! As you can see on my post on the first page, some players are obviously there to win.
KOGA, stop complaining about your gameplays. Play the game, and if you win, you win, and if you lose, you lose. Be O.K. with it. It’s just a game. It’s not like if you lost something big, you just lost nothing.

I think it’s terrible to see some people having such a horrible mindset. Stop it KOGA. Doing this might lead to a ban.

Finally, you exagerate allot. I don’t know any player that sends a ferocious amount of messages about a little rule. Once again, your thread just made your reputation lower. Cut it off.

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HAHA you’ve never driven an AWD drift car in the “unlimited drift” (not the “unlimited RWD”, mind you) lobbies.

“Lern2Drift, scrub”
“AWD is not drifting”
“You drift too slow, and you never counter-steer”
“More than 75k a lap on Maple Valley is impossible”
“Try drifting a RWD car”
(I then pulled out a stock Corvette ZR1)
“No way that’s stock”
“You AWD swapped it” (It’s a Chevy, cannot be done…)
“Bet you can’t tandem or limbo, cause you suck”

I know the guy who sent me messages was trolling, but it has happened.

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ow! - concur with Bulin Will5 - glad I can still enjoy this game - thought that’s what it is about.