There should be an option to disable 2x credits for people who have the VIP bundle

I am looking forward to getting this game early. Part of this is getting the VIP bundle as well. However, there is a 2x credits boost.

A 2x credits boost will make the campaign and progression overall significantly easier, which would make the game less fun for a lot of people.

I want a little toggle to turn off 2x credits boost so I can progress at the normal rate and still play the game early.

I never really liked that feature, it basically just ruins the economy that would be otherwise quite challenging.

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I’m voting for this - I think it might be a good thing to be toggled off on a per-session basis.

Something like a “Disable Credits Boost this session” option might work… sure, it’d be a hassle to have to restart the game to disable it again, but it might be a good middle ground.

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Alternatively, just don’t spend all the credits; or use those credits to buy cars from the auction house and then sell them for a lower price - you’ll effectively get rid of your credits and make at least 2 other people happier at once.

Yeah, but if you buy a game, you shouldn’t have to make the economy yourself. There are other games that let you choose a difficulty level on how much credits you earn or how expensive items are. Forza just makes it super easy these days. Back in FH1 and 2, they didn’t have a Ultimate Edition yet, so nobody had a credit bonus, the economy seemed fair, not a grind, but you still had to make financial decisions. Since FH3 the credit bonus exists and I honestly think it takes away from the gaming experience.

The devs want to tell us that we can play however we want, but don’t give us the option to toggle the progression or economy. Why is there not a simple slider in the settings where you can choose “extra fast progression” so you reach Legends Island earlier or a hardcore option for people who love grinding for money.

Yes technically I can just waste my money on the estate or buy and sell cars, but choosing how hard the economy is, shouldn’t be an active decision that you have to manage with workarounds. We can already choose the AI difficulty, so why not a simple credits multiplier slider in the settings from 0.5x to 1.5x and Premium Edition owners have a wider range up to 2.0x.

That’s just my view of course, there are many people that complain about not having enough money and the game being too grindy. I think this entire 2x credits for Premium owners has separated the community into people who complain about becoming rich too quickly and Standard owners who want more money. A simple slider could easily fix this issue for everyone and it would be so easy to implement, like seriously, sooo easy.

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Then cancel your preorder and don’t buy the game with the VIP Pass. You buy that thing FOR the bonuses

Now they do, and the only thing you can do about it is avoid buying the DLC that gives you bonus credits.

That’s your opinion and I cannot agree. It does exactly nothing for me as I know I’ll get to a certain point with my earnings anyway. Best you can do is limit yourself to around the same budget you’d have without the VIP credits bonus. Or cancel your preorder and buy the standard edition at release.

Because that’s not something you should have to adjust. If it’s badly designed then its badly designed and your job is to then complain about it, so that maybe they’ll change it.

Because that’s not how earning XP and credits works in Forza. There has never been a slider to adjust these earn rates and it’s more than likely that such thing cannot be implemented because it has a high chance of making everything bug out for everyone.

You can just… cancel your preorder and get the standard edition that has no VIP.

It’ll bug out for everyone and suddenly everyone will be earning either 2.0x credits or 0 credits for some reason. Though now that I look at it, it may not be that bad. It just cannot be implemented with how broken the “”“new”“” Forzatech engine seems to be.

Don’t waste your money on preorders. Get the standard version on release. That’s all I can tell you.

Then cancel your preorder and don’t buy the game with the VIP Pass. You buy that thing FOR the bonuses

Funny, I thought people bought the premium edition for the car packs, expansions, and possibly mostly for the early access. Your suggestion would only work if the VIP stuff was a separate purchase to everything else.

If it’s badly designed then its badly designed and your job is to then complain about it, so that maybe they’ll change it.

Yeah, he could start a thread suggesting they change it by doing something like allowing people to toggle it off.

Seriously, if there’s a check in the code for whether you’ve got the VIP stuff so that the game gives you double the credits adding “and the user hasn’t set this config value” shouldn’t cause any bugs.

He’s asking for the option for those who want to earn at the regular pace, which would still allow you to earn at the (default) accelerated pace for having the VIP stuff, so I’m not seeing why you’re so down on the suggestion

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I guess he’s having a bad day or something, idk.

I did actually make a suggestion right after writing my comment, you can find it here:

Personally I’m one of the people who buy the Premium Edition, cause it’s just the best deal and I want to experience all the content they have to offer. But if that is tied to making the economy a lot easier, then that’s just not fun to me. I’ve heard on reddit and in yt comments that it should be possible to just not download the 2x VIP bonus DLC and then you shouldn’t get the bonus in-game either, but that’s just a workaround and I simply don’t understand why anyone would be against an optional feature that fixes this. It’s such a no-brainer, people have been complaining about this since 2016, it’s about time they fix this, lol.

No matter if they make it a slider with more options or just a simple toggle on/off, I’d be very happy in both cases.

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I agree and as much as I doubt the devs will add this I think the solution would be up until you finish the campaign don’t download the vip dlc you can own it but keep it in your ready to download dlcs and the game should treat yku as if you dont own the dlc

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I think this extends beyond just the double credits from the VIP pack. I’d like to see better integrated DLC across the board. I wouldn’t want to remove all the freebies for those that want it, but for me getting tons of free stuff isn’t fun. With this option toggled to car packs should just add them to the autoshow and not give a copy for free, double credits should be unlocked once at Legend status, free houses given for reaching certain wristbands, etc. Integrate the things into the actual game and progression system, rather than nullifying it for the players that appreciate more oldschool mechanics.

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I’ve got something too: remove DLC car packs and make any cars that would’ve landed there exclusively purchasable via Car Vouchers for like 3 months, and then after those 3 months they land in the autoshow. Players wouldn’t be able to delete or sell them for that period of 3 months, so as not to let people get them for “free” before they become available to everyone.
The Crew Motorfest already uses a similar model, except the yearly car passes are expensive.

I personally prefer the “Disable Credits Boost this session” option more - Players should have the agency to decide when they want the Credits Boost.

Certain VIP perks can’t be toggled on or off, I get it, and making the option only toggleable when the game starts can be annoying, but it’s a perfect middle ground IMO - I’d rather be asked “Do you want to turn your VIP Credits Boost on?” every time I start the game (though with an option to change the thing to off or on via a VIP Options menu)

As for the car packs, the system of “Redeem whenever you want” from the Car Pass might still be a good idea - it allows you to still get the car for free, but when you need it or want it. Just don’t put reminders that you got unredeemed cars in the mail (it encourages people to rush their decisions!) and we’ll be good.

Just wait for the crying when the VIP double credits doesn’t work for a portion of the player base at launch :rofl:

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Hi, so I was thinking, with preordering the premium editions, you’ll get the Ferrari J50, weekly a car, and double xp, right?

So 2 questions:

  1. Can you untick boxes when you have preordered the premium edition (like double xp, some cars, maybe the J50 itself)?
  2. When you preorder the premium edition, will this mean you’ll get to drive those cars right away? If so then this is bad for the progression system. You’ll ruin it…

Solution: 1) put the option to untick boxes so that you can choose for double xp or not and 2) They should add a locksystem for those cars you get from Premium Edition. Once you reach the level you would be able to buy them anyway, the cars would unlock+you won’t need to pay them.

it’s good that they serve both options, to start with advantages and to start from scratch, but for me, everyone should be treated equally. No advantages in progression.

EDIT: For hypercars, they indeed have lock untill you have made it to the purple wristband. Only there, you can use the hypercars, according to the article. However… There are some races, or maybe just one even, where the car you bring is unrestricted… So this will temper with the progression I think…

Based on the article they posted, you won’t be able to drive the J50 in any official events until you reach higher level wristbands. You will probably be able to in free roam though since I don’t think that will require a wristband.

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I’ve made an edit in my original post above your post. So apperantly yes, they made a lock for hypercars it seems, but question is, also for the rest? Or?

Also… There is this race that is unrestricted, and that could temper with the progressionsystem.

Like I said before, it’s good that they serve both options, to start with advantages and to start from scratch, but for me, everyone should be treated equally. No advantages in progression.

@Grayfox2789 I’ve merged your topic and votes into this existing one.

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No. You only get to use them in festival curated races after reacing the purple wristband. You are not prevented from owning them before getting there, and you can not only drive them in free roam, but also race them in various forms of street races.

I’m curious, i know people are excited and can pre order to play early or not. However if the progression system really bothers you that much - talking about the credit boosts, VIP packs etc. Why not just order the standard edition? this games life cycle is going to be minimum 5 years with how things have gone previously. That’s plenty of time to play the game….is the 4 days early really going to matter that much to you - compared to getting the progression you so clearly want?

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I was missing some major point. Someone reacted on a facebookpost. He makes alot of sense.

Said: “There is no checkboxes etc when you pre order. Also by the sounds of it you can still race the faster cars but it would not be on races that go toward progression in the “festival playlist”. The races would be unofficial as such.
To progress by using (for example) a hyper car after the first race ypu would go down the “discover japan” way of progression not the festival playlist.
Naturally we dont know all details but the above is indicated in the official blog post by forza.”