If you use a downloaded tune it is locked …you can’t even have a look to see the settings …OK I get that you are protecting the tuner’s work …
however … with the change in the seasons the tune’s effectiveness will change with temperature.
I have had to adjust tyre pressures on one or two of my tunes to cope with the change in temperature in winter vs summer … the “feeling” goes
Maybe it is the one thing that should be accessible in the tuning window ? …especially as we have no choice in the season
It’s whyI learned to tune my own cars.
Momma Murders latest Bloodlust tune may work great in Sumner Road Rage events on tarmac, but once you hit that winter dirt you done gone slippin and slidin.
Of course, with the new rules of forcing good drivers into last place, I don’t even bother tuning, no point when the goal is to kill the better drivers.
yeah -99% of the tunes I use are my own …but from a Tuner’s perspective (I am not claiming to be a Tuner!) any shared tune is going to have to be a compromise unless you produce tunes for different temps
I started playing with tuning mainly because I wanted to drift and didn’t like most of the tunes I was downloading, even from youtubers with large followings.
And it was simple stuff …like the car felt much better when you just started with it (cold) but then got too loose (hot) … I knew what I wanted to change but couldn’t
I think tire and brake pressure should be accessible even on shared tunes, although there would need to be safeguards put in place to make sure users couldn’t modify one of the available settings and re-share the tune as their own.
If you are losing because of minor tyre pressure changes, you need to look at your driving skill level.
Snow tyres will give a bigger advantage than everyone who uses a non snow tune.
If you are bothered by minor tuning effects, take it to FM7 where the effects are actually felt on track.
In Fh4 anything over stock is enough of an advantage to win, especially when there are soo many top guys releasing free tunes like Johnson and DJS.
Unless you are talking drag in which case knock yourself out, it that matters to you.
Overall grip is higher, x/z force summing is more generous, and overall the tires are more forgiving (which can make tuning more difficult at times), but all the effects and mechanics from FM7 are present in FH4.
I’m not anywhere the best tuner but I can build a pretty good car, I like building drag cars buy have plenty of race cars shared. When I share most of my stuff it will be season/event specific. Like the season a while back with the XJ220, I built one for the dirt, one for the top Speed run, one for the road races. And the '69 Camaro, they’re not good drag cars to begin with(in this game) but I build a RWD snow tire drag car for the ice drag track for folks to use to get the forzathon points. But also a road race version and so on. Just have to look at the descriptions to see what’s what.
I know what you’re saying and that’s fruatrating for sure. Most good tuners will make sure you know what the car is tuned for, or at the very least you can see if it’s AWD, RWD, snow or off road tires. I’d would also say that if you’re feeling you need a psi change or have an idea of what you want differently, you can prolly set up a car yourself and if not, alot of the time the default tune is pretty good to start off with.
Ding ding ding ding ding! You cant look or make any adjustments. Take the time to run races against AI to tune your cars, even run them against low level AI until you feel its becoming easy to make it around your route. Then up the difficulty and try it against the hard AI. That will really let you know if your tune is legit. I dont share any of my tunes, if I can figure out, so can others
While we are at it, can we take the brake pressure out of tuning, please? I would like it as a general setting. Some tunes are not usable for me, because they work against my muscle memory in breaking, which is a pity.
IMHO, It doesn’t depend on the car. For example I have a loadcell breakpedal, so it doesn’t matter if breaking pressure is set to 90% or 110%, I always can break at the optimal max pressure before the lock up… when you don’t have a breakpedal like that the muscle memory just count way more. To fit a car to your muscle memory you can say, older cars with weaker brakes need 100+ and modern cars need 100- , but how much + or - depends on your muscle meomory and breaking style…
Muscle memory plays no role in it unless every cars breaking is set the exact same.
How does muscle memory address the difference between 60-0 in 115 ft compared to 60-0 in 93 ft?
The weight of the vehicle will also determine breaking pressure. The corner itself will determine breaking pressure as well. Tapping vs full on mashing the pedal/trigger.
I’m starting to understand why people drive straight at walls now. If they are not trying to outright murder you, they are counting on muscles to turn them.
What are you even talking about? When I am used to 50% LT pressure to reach max breaking power, it is ok to find the right pressure when it is set to 60%, but much harder (like some guys prefer it) when they use 90% as the sweet spot.
And I sincerely doubt that the cars react differently to different sweet spots. There might be cars that need more pressure (an oldtimer break from the 30s might need more braking power than a racing brake, but a sweet spot is still a sweet spot.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Hoki Hoshi did a video last week on how to reverse engineer downloaded tunes. The only point I think he missed is, if you’re using a car that you haven’t already modified very much, you can narrow down on which upgrades were used by looking for ones that you already own, since you need to buy those parts to use them in a tune. Some of the tuning settings are frankly beyond me, but if you’re any good with this kind of stuff, you can probably figure it out.
you cannot. For me, that’s the point, being tuning or painting we should have the choice to share it protected or unprotected, logged some feedback on that months ago.
btw why mention it is locked if cannot be unlocked ???
You are right as far as a sweet spot being just that.
But that 60% trigger pull is your biggest problem unless you tune the car yourself.
Let’s say you get your wish, every cars breaks are locked at center with 100 % pressure so your triggered finger don’t have to bother thinking.
Now you have to make everything on your car the exact same. Weight must be the same. Tire pressure must be the same. Aero must be the same. Car, Truck or boat, they need to be almost identical to keep your finger happy.
And what about feathering the breaks?
There’s far more to driving than setting your trigger pressure and forgetting about it.
Rain, snow, track surface.
Do this, tune a car yourself, set the break pressure at 100% and drive it in different seasons. Put different tire compounds on and try again. Wrong tires on dirt, your triggered finger just had it’s head explode, because breaks work different on different tires and surfaces. That’s why some people drive into walls while others take corners cleanly. Breaks, proper tires and knowing how to use them.
Counting on a 60% trigger pull will most likely wrap you around a tree or three.
