The Downfall of Forza Motorsport

So we all collectively agreed that Redfall doesn’t exist anymore.

Redfall was entirely an Bethesda project which MS inherited when they acquired Zenimax. Last time I checked it wasn’t an absolute technical desaster unlike FM2023. Redfall was simply a bad game.

Nah bruh, this is great news - according to the Microsoft Gaming CEO.

Much strategic.
Very opportunity.
So potential.

:man_facepalming:

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I think the thing that particularly irks me about this right now is if you look around a lot of forums (here included), Reddit, and elsewhere, people are desperate to spin or downplay this HARD. Meanwhile, the bus just keeps hurtling past signpost after signpost after signpost.

Here’s my thing - if things were not as bad as they are gradually but quickly shaping up to be, wouldn’t you want to get out in front of it first, even as a token effort? The continued silence is saying a whole lot, and none of it - true to form, as it may be - is good.

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It’s always been that way, and it keeps intensifying.

Just be patient, bro.
Just give it some time, bro.
We shall see, bro.
There’s so much potential, bro.
Time will tell, bro.
You never know what the future might hold, bro.

Been hearing so much about “potential” for more than a decade, and I can’t help feeling massively disappointed about where all that “potential” has ended up.

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That picture is bringing up dramatic YouTube vibes, something that isn’t needed on this forum

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As someone who unironically likes this game…how soon do y’all think they shut down the servers for this? (I can’t see this getting offline single player before then.)

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:joy: That’s enough Forza forums for today. Where are these guys’ heads?

Goodbye Forza Motorsport as we know it.

They’ve automated a ton of stuff.
I could easily see it going to the end of next year.

Don’t expect updates though.

That makes two now. I wonder how many former yet well-known employees have to comment on this before it becomes obvious.

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JohnIwanna posted about this today on FB. It’s sad to see this franchise end. I’m curious if T10 will do a final update and make the game playable offline or if they’ll pull the licenses like Ubisoft.

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I used to like Phil,‘always seemed a genuine guy, but he’s tone deaf in that email.

It’s clear that layoff are a result of a totally disastrous sales period for Xbox series consoles and who knows maybe the overall sustainability and profitability of the game pass model, but most definitely is the result of the $100b investment which the shareholders want/ need a return on.

Simply put the gaming division has to deliver profits now, before the size of the gaming division was a rounding error on MS accounts, now SN is responsible to the shareholders to increase profits and keep increasing the stock price. Unfortunately this often leads to ‘jam today’ short term thinking, something which the Japanese and now Chinese tend to do a little differently.

If MS continue to run their gaming division in the same fashion as the rest of the corporation, then it isn’t just forza that won’t survive. All we’ll have is horizon, COD and Minecraft.

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Well, if things don’t go well, this might be the last one for a while. Time for a new franchise to take control of the simcade racer title.

That email was really for the shareholders. The fact is everything is about the short term and corporate greed is little by little running gaming into the ground.

I think the focus on the shareholders confidence has overshadowed the customers confidence. Revenues might be up but i dont think anyones really confident in xboxs’ future.

I do think turn 10 dropped the ball, but i dont think shutting them down was the right answer. I hope some kind of statement is made to let people know what happens now. Although i have been expecting this for a while, its sad to see a 20 year old franchise be turned into yet another gaas failure.

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Ughh

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Microsoft is a multinational corporation and many of the people laid off are of different nationalities. On top of that, the wording of that tweet leaves little doubt as to the intent of the author.

What’s happening is bad, but let’s not start trafficking in racism.

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To me, that has nothing to do with racism (unless we’re talking about exploiting foreign laborers), but it has everything to do with business practices that work against the local/domestic workforce & economy - “for the shareholders.
They need 14,000+ workers but they’re putting 9,000 of their own on unemployment.

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