TCS Questions

I used to use TCS all of the time in Forza 5, and while I knew this was slowing me down a bit, I was usually still able, through skill, to keep up with those not using it. In FM6 however, TCS sometimes really slows the car down, noticeably killing the power. However, whatever it was that changed the handling of cars between 5 and 6 has made me need TCS even more on higher powered cars that now seem to lose their rear ends a lot easier.
The main thing I’m wondering is what tuning, if any, helps reduce that power killing effect, where when your car gets a bit sideways you seem to lose all pickup. I ask because on some cars/tunes this rarely happens at all where as in others it happens so often that it’s impossible for me to get good times when driving them. I’ve noticed this in similar PI cars, so it’s not just a matter of it happening in only higher powered cars. For instance, in the historic race car league, the Alpha Romeo with TCS rarely had this occur, while other cars were slowed down terribly by it. It’s gotten so my list of cars that I’m comfortable driving has been cut way down, and I’ve always preferred racing a wide variety of cars and not just the handful of known “leaderboard” cars.
If anyone has any info that might shed some light on this and help me then I’d be greatly appreciative. I’m not a gearhead by any means, so the more specific you can be, the better.
Thanks!

I’ve found that decreasing the accelevation on the diff helps. Don’t use on most cars myself except the really powerful ones, but you are right ,on some cars it really is a killer but on others it’s fine. Not sure why that is.

Thanks. I have tried that and it does help some. If anyone else has any solutions let us know.

If you’re using a controller, try setting the deadzones to 0 and 100 in the advanced settings area. For tuning, I put a little negative toe in the rear end. It helps slightly, but for the most part it’s just learning the game.

  1. TCS is faster - You aren’t using it properly
  2. You are confusing TCS and STM; TCS Longitudinally / STM Laterally
  3. Don’t break traction or stab the throttle which is what you are most likely doing = wrong

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TCS is for soccer moms in minivans just build your cars with a bit more handling. Dont follow the leaderboard sheeple. :wink:

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Take my advice with a grain of salt, but play with your differential (accel/decel) find the sweet spot between the two, it’ll depend on the car. Also consider factors like: Power to weight / Torque to weight ratios as well, generally high powered cars with a light weight chassis (around 2300) are more likely to be squirrly, best you can do it lower the accel diff as well as the decel to help reduce oversteer from lift throttle (the ingame descriptions tell you this).

Also keep in mind weight distribution, especially on RWD cars; rear downforce will significantly help with that, even if you hate the wing, its there to buy for a reason.

In game description is wrong. To reduce off throttle oversteer INCREASE decel.

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This is true, funny thing is aside from my post, by habbit i do increase to reduce lift throttle, but still a brain fart on my end. Thing is with decel some cars understeer tremendously if set too high. I usually keep it between ~15-35%.

you still need good throttle control whilst using TCS to get the most out of it.

you can get away with murder mid and exit of a corner by going full throttle earlier than you should and the TCS will save you but once it kicks in it does what is designed for. which is cutting power from the spinning wheels. If you want to use it as it is safer and faster, pretend its not on and try not to light up the tcs light and it will be faster in the higher power cars. lower class cars E-C i would not bother as they generally lower powered and easier to drive.

Wasn’t the decel slider backwards?

Apparently the 4 letter word for flatulants is censored.

Increase the deceleration on some cars of you feel like they have lift offoversteer. When you lift off oversteer you start to slide which means you try to apply power, the traction control comes on and it bogs you down. In my opinion, most race cars have poor diff settings in this game. Depending on the car, I like my diff to be either 70, 75, 80 or 85% in acceleration and 35, 50, 80 or 85% in deceleration. It just depends on the car… I like ferraris to be 80-80.
Sometimes reducing the tire pressure will help but don’t go lower than 26.0 psi all round for day time. I actually use higher psi than that but I don’t use traction control but when I did I found lower psi to be better. Try reducing the camber in the front and rear. This forza doesn’t like high camber. For most road cars, I like around -1.5 on the front and -0.5 on the rear, try that and tweak it to suit the car. Soften your rebound stiffness and bump stiffness… I found that when the car starts to bounce of track it would make the TCS kick in harder so a softer suspension and damping should help. If your in the rain reduce the stiffness on the anti sway-bars. That’ll give you more mechanical grip.

Also try to upgrade your cars to have more grip, rather than power and be sensible in your choice of upgrades… Hope this helps!

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I’d been sick and hadn’t gotten a chance to play much or check back here sooner. I’ll give them a try.

Lift off oversteer could also be to much rear brake bias. If ur in the 40%s go a couple of clicks closer to 50%