It’s been about a year since the last time I posted on this forum and unfortunately I have to write a rant. Again.
You see, I play this game since it came out. I mention this to tell you that I do know what I’m on about so bear with me.
I have seen the mayhem which was Forza Motorsport 7 at launch.
I patiently waited until this game was playable and Turn10 did a good thing fixing issues which shouldn’t have been in the game in the first place.
But even after that, the issues with rammers/griefers have not been addressed properly by Turn10 in my opinion.
Since the change of the endurance hopper from tire wear to full damage, the problem with rammers/griefers has been a nightmare.
How many times have we (people that actually play this game for the sake of RACING) suggested to address this issue?
Not implementing penalties is one thing to discuss but is it so hard to GHOST lapped players?
Instead you get people that you lap on Lap 2 that try to ruin your race by ramming into you, causing you to get damage, forcing you to pit or continue with damage, which automatically ruins your race.
This particular issue has gotten worse over the last 3 weeks. There was one specific guy who did this 24/7 last week. He has multiple accounts and is only in the endurance hopper to do exactly this.
I reported him countless times, recorded video footage etc. (I contacted a Race Marshall to adress this)
But he is only one of many.
Only talking about 5 races today, I encountered 4 different people doing exactly this.
You would think “oh well it’s only 4 people, can’t be that bad ay?” Matter of fact is though, one person is enough in endurance hopper to ruin a race for 23 other players. And at the state of Forza 7 right now, you usually only get 2-3 active open lobbies in the endurance hopper so chances are pretty high you get matched with the same people.
I am aware that banning players is not the job of Turn10, but I still feel like Turn10 was always on the side of the “rammer” instead of the “racer”.
What I mean by that is, if you look back before “friction assists”, you could always get obliterated by a rammer (not braking, smashing into you) just because of the collision model in Forza.
Well now that we that “assist”, you would think that this problem would be fixed right? In my honest opinion no. Not at all.
Do we get “a better racing experience” with this assist? I’d say yes, you can race with other people way closer without crashing than you could before and that is good.
The fact is though, that you can STILL smash people of the racetrack (not braking, smashing into someone who then goes off, tested it, ban me now). But thankfully hardly no one does it anymore which is good!
So now that we have the ramming “fixxed”, let’s see what has been done about griefers in this one year of Forza Motorsport 7. (in case you don’t know what I mean, a griefer is someone, who tries to destroy everyones race, by ramming people off the track/try to get damage on your car when you overtake/lap the griefer)
So you got a griefer in your lobby, what are your options?
- Report the person via the ingame button or via the Xbox Playercard
Well, the report button does work but when I see the same griefer 2 weeks later doing the same stuff, I questioned my sanity.
2.Contact a Race Marshall
So first you need to know who is a Race Marshall in this game. Is there a handy list to check who is a Race Marshall and who is online? Not that I know.
You are either lucky that you see some in a lobby or you know one/have one on the friendslist.
So now you need to save a replay of the griefer, after your race where you have about 15sec - 1 min to click on safe replay(depending on when and where you finish in the race and how fast your pc/console can handle Forza) (You can only save 10 replays, and if you want to safe another one, you first have to delete one first, then select the free space option, and then hit safe and hope that it worked).
You can, of course, also use the Xbox Capture function BUT there are is hardly any situation in the endurance hopper where this is usefull, since the griefers do all the “damage to the race” at the first few laps and then leave. So you are either forced to press start during the race or pit early to capture the incident, which both automatically loses you the race (if there is any left).
Then you have to send the evidence to the Race Marshall and depending on who the Race Marshall is, you may have to do both options since the Xbox Capture "is not enough evidence since it is only situational and can be seen out of context (direct quote of a Race Marshall).
Then you have to wait to see IF the griefer got banned.
I have never seen a vote kick option so badly implemented.
You have to click on the players name, then click “kick to vote” which does nothing.
I am not even sure how this option works, I have never seen it working once in my time playing this game but I would guess that either 50% or more people in the lobby have to click “kick to vote” on the same person in order to get him kicked. It’s a joke really.
As you can see the “good person” has to invest a lot of effort in order to have a proper racing experience in this game while a griefer can do whatever they want and for as long as they want until they get banned (if you’re unlucky as I am in this case, that would be one week of griefing from the same guy). (I am aware that this is not happening ALL the time but is a very common sight in the recent weeks).
This is ridiculous.
So what can be done about this particular issue?
- Remove damage from endurance hopper (I dont like this solution at all, but would be the quickest)
2.Permanently ghosting lapped players/ ghosting players that are farther away from you than one lap/close to one lap
3.Penalty system (which has been requested for years, but will probably never happen in Forza)
I am open to suggestions on how to deal with this issue.
Also english is not my first language yadada, keep the spelling mistakes yadada.